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[IEM] Shenzhen EU Qualifiers - Page 15
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							Strela
							
							
						 
						Netherlands1896 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:12 D-light wrote: Well Snute did what he had to. I guess you can't blame him for playing the way he did. Please stop whining about sh-whining. Please stop whining. | ||
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							Yonnua
							
							
						 
						United Kingdom2331 Posts
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							Cynry
							
							
						 
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						 On June 02 2014 07:09 -y0shi- wrote: Snute was miles ahead, then couldnt keep up with the constant attacks til the game was basically over, first was up like 3 bases and 5000/2500 vs no resources/no mining. Then snute sat on his one base and waited. Maybe its a protoss perspective thing, idk, but this game pissed me off like nothing since hero vs leenock on antiga. Wouldnt mind someone explaining why im wrong though.. You are wrong thinking Snute "waited". Of course he defended his only base, he had no alternative. But still, it takes some skills to do that againt such a killer composition from First. Transfusing, getting the yank timings right not to waste them, also has to match the locust waves. Sure, from your POV, maybe it's just "waiting", but not every zerg can "wait" that well. | ||
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							D-light
							
							
						 
						Finland7364 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:11 -KG- wrote: Sick games..... Snute > Europe Fixed that for you. | ||
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							Tontsa
							
							
						 
						Finland1 Post
						 Overall I dislike the mentality of a player just defending with free units untill the other player gets frustarated and makes a mistake becouse of it. I would hope players would try to outplay the other with a more aggresive style. | ||
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							sharkie
							
							
						 
						Austria18504 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:13 Yonnua wrote: The problem isn't even about the balance of it; it's about the fact that if First had chosen to, he could have just turtled at the top of a ramp and done nothing and the game would have gone on for hours of the players doing nothing. And the player that chooses to make the game more interesting for viewers by participating is punished. It's the disproportionate favouring of defender's advantage that made ZvZ very uninteresting to watch. It's particularly disappointing from Snute who usually plays such exciting games. Yes. First lost this game because he only cared about making this game interesting for viewers!!! Oh my god... -.- | ||
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						France7248 Posts
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							Nebuchad
							
							
						 
						Switzerland12317 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:13 Yonnua wrote: It's particularly disappointing from Snute who usually plays such exciting games. I'm sure he'll have a thought for your disappointment on his way to Shenzhen. | ||
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							ssxsilver
							
							
						 
						United States4409 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:08 Ace Frehley wrote: Replace fungal with yank units into static defense? There's a lot of Viper babysitting going on. You can't just run Vipers in b/c Feedback has the same range as Abduct. Elsewhere repositioning SHs to defend is much harder than the WOL fungal defense. Don't get me wrong I still dislike the unit, but I don't think this comeback was as easy as some people are making it out to be. | ||
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							Ramiz1989
							
							
						 
						12124 Posts
						 It was a great game, the player that played better in this game won, you can balance whine all you want. On June 02 2014 07:14 ssxsilver wrote: There's a lot of Viper babysitting going on. You can't just run Vipers in b/c Feedback has the same range as Abduct. Elsewhere repositioning SHs to defend is much harder than the WOL fungal defense. Don't get me wrong I still dislike the unit, but I don't think this comeback was as easy as some people are making it out to be. Exactly this. | ||
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							-y0shi-
							
							
						 
						Germany994 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:12 vjcamarena wrote: I liked this game. I know people will complain about swarm hosts, but honestly, my understanding is First defeated himself by stopping the harass. He was tearing Snute apart, and decided to put all his eggs in the Air basket. Snute played a good "mech" game. He didn't just turtle. That said: Snute beats Kas, Welmu, Yoda, Jjakji, MC, First. HO-LEE SHEET. Insane! Not trying to pick a fight but how would he harass anymore? Snute had no bases left to harass and every time first tried to attack into the turtle base he lost units for free. | ||
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							Killmouse
							
							
						 
						Austria5700 Posts
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							Nebuchad
							
							
						 
						Switzerland12317 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:15 -y0shi- wrote: Not trying to pick a fight but how would he harass anymore? Snute had no bases left to harass and every time first tried to attack into the turtle base he lost units for free. Top left was left alone for a long while. | ||
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							blackbrrd
							
							
						 
						Norway477 Posts
						 On May 29 2014 22:12 Liquid`Snute wrote: Stage 2 scheduled right on top of NationWars quarterfinals day, and doing so 3-4 days before the match-date ... I know it's not easy, but ... :'( So, you just decided to boss-mode it twice in one day? Gratz! :D | ||
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							D-light
							
							
						 
						Finland7364 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:13 Yonnua wrote: It's particularly disappointing from Snute who usually plays such exciting games. Idunno. All the roach wars in zvz and swarmhosts in pvz aren't the most exciting games. But hey that's just me. | ||
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							Green_25
							
							
						 
						Great Britain696 Posts
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							sharkie
							
							
						 
						Austria18504 Posts
						 And protoss whine as if its happening every hour lol | ||
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						Northern Ireland25956 Posts
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							-y0shi-
							
							
						 
						Germany994 Posts
						 On June 02 2014 07:13 Cynry wrote: You are wrong thinking Snute "waited". Of course he defended his only base, he had no alternative. But still, it takes some skills to do that againt such a killer composition from First. Transfusing, getting the yank timings right not to waste them, also has to match the locust waves. Sure, from your POV, maybe it's just "waiting", but not every zerg can "wait" that well. I guess I can see that, and obviously snute did the "right" thing. What Im wondering is what First can do to break that, unless snute messes up. On a more positive note, I havent been this emotioanlly invested in a game of sc2 in a long time :D | ||
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EPT First is up bases, bank, army, everything but he cant do shit do do damage :/
 First is up bases, bank, army, everything but he cant do shit do do damage :/  
	









