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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 20 2014 04:37 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:36 BakedButters wrote: It's simply a time where TvZ is the most unbalanced matchup atm. oh now from TvP to TvZ... hmm what is next? TvT? What is (in that match) the imbalance from zerg now, that hasn't been there in WoL besides Muta regen
The maps.
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On May 20 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote: Targa's ZvZ is good though. Polt's TvZ is not good.
Funny how that seems to apply for every Terran?
Come on, Polt does not have bad TvZ, but it is incredible hard for Terran to go even with Zerg. Balance stats are slowly but steady turning more and more in favour for the Zerg players.
I think it is quite offensive then, saying Polt does not have good TvZ when he puts up such a game vs Armani, who won against Flash in the Code A-qualifier with 2-0 for an example.
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On May 20 2014 04:38 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed this Polt series. How did Armani wreck him? Never even heard of that guy o.O Muta muta muta into huge midgame push for the 2 1st games. The 3rd was Polt ahead, attacking the 4rd, polt better army and upgrade, but stilll lose his army. Then polt lost the game with 3/3 with 1/3 because reasons. Polt was never really ahead besides those upgrades.
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United States97247 Posts
Disappointed Stork didn't win the paid trip. I hope he sitll goes but idk trip from Korea is probably pretty expensive plus idk if his team would send him
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Marus 1 fact, more Rax seems better than massing mines and hellbats which don't seem to do much. Although that relies on having Maru micro..
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On May 20 2014 04:38 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed this Polt series. How did Armani wreck him? Never even heard of that guy o.O Muta muta muta into huge midgame push for the 2 1st games. The 3rd was Polt ahead, attacking the 4rd, polt better army and upgrade, but stilll lose his army. Then polt lost the game with 3/3 with 1/3 because reasons. No drops by Polt, a nono when you want to be top 10 terran. Bad splits Strange build reasons
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it's 4:39 am in korea.... damn armani. that's really impressive
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sad for Polt but Armani played really good games, just a little better as Polt. I don't feel you can blame that on balance.
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Look at the recent trends. TvZ is now very Z favored. Terran pros don't complain about Protoss, but about Zergs
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 20 2014 04:39 Glorfindel! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote: Targa's ZvZ is good though. Polt's TvZ is not good. Funny how that seems to apply for every Terran? Come on, Polt does not have bad TvZ, but it is incredible hard for Terran to go even with Zerg. Balance stats are slowly but steady turning more and more in favour for the Zerg players. I think it is quite offensive then, saying Polt does not have good TvZ when he puts up such a game vs Armani, who won against Flash in the Code A-qualifier with 2-0 for an example.
I don't think anyone has good TvZ except for Maru against anyone not named Soulkey. Though Inno is a giant ? for me.
I guess I just compare players to the very best of their race. A holdover from a time when every Zerg sucked except for Nestea. Every Protoss sucked except for MC.
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On May 20 2014 04:39 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:38 Faust852 wrote:On May 20 2014 04:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed this Polt series. How did Armani wreck him? Never even heard of that guy o.O Muta muta muta into huge midgame push for the 2 1st games. The 3rd was Polt ahead, attacking the 4rd, polt better army and upgrade, but stilll lose his army. Then polt lost the game with 3/3 with 1/3 because reasons. Polt was never really ahead besides those upgrades. Yeah because it's not an huge advantage to be 3/3 vs 1/2 for 5min with 5bases vs 5.
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On May 20 2014 04:40 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:38 Faust852 wrote:On May 20 2014 04:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed this Polt series. How did Armani wreck him? Never even heard of that guy o.O Muta muta muta into huge midgame push for the 2 1st games. The 3rd was Polt ahead, attacking the 4rd, polt better army and upgrade, but stilll lose his army. Then polt lost the game with 3/3 with 1/3 because reasons. No drops by Polt, a nono when you want to be top 10 terran. Bad splits Strange build reasons
In other words: Polt, L2P. Applies to every other Terran in the world
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On May 20 2014 04:40 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:39 Glorfindel! wrote:On May 20 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote: Targa's ZvZ is good though. Polt's TvZ is not good. Funny how that seems to apply for every Terran? Come on, Polt does not have bad TvZ, but it is incredible hard for Terran to go even with Zerg. Balance stats are slowly but steady turning more and more in favour for the Zerg players. I think it is quite offensive then, saying Polt does not have good TvZ when he puts up such a game vs Armani, who won against Flash in the Code A-qualifier with 2-0 for an example. I don't think anyone has good TvZ except for Maru against anyone not named Soulkey. Though Inno is a giant ? for me. I guess I just compare players to the very best of their race. A holdover from a time when every Zerg sucked except for Nestea. Every Protoss sucked except for MC. EFFORT SAYS HELLO
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France7248 Posts
On May 20 2014 04:39 Shellshock wrote: Disappointed Stork didn't win the paid trip. I hope he sitll goes but idk trip from Korea is probably pretty expensive plus idk if his team would send him they sent Solar for the last Numericable Nup in France
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On May 20 2014 04:41 scypio wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:40 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On May 20 2014 04:38 Faust852 wrote:On May 20 2014 04:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed this Polt series. How did Armani wreck him? Never even heard of that guy o.O Muta muta muta into huge midgame push for the 2 1st games. The 3rd was Polt ahead, attacking the 4rd, polt better army and upgrade, but stilll lose his army. Then polt lost the game with 3/3 with 1/3 because reasons. No drops by Polt, a nono when you want to be top 10 terran. Bad splits Strange build reasons In other words: Polt, L2P. Applies to every other Terran in the world "lp2". (ref : proxy nexus).
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On May 20 2014 04:40 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:38 Faust852 wrote:On May 20 2014 04:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I missed this Polt series. How did Armani wreck him? Never even heard of that guy o.O Muta muta muta into huge midgame push for the 2 1st games. The 3rd was Polt ahead, attacking the 4rd, polt better army and upgrade, but stilll lose his army. Then polt lost the game with 3/3 with 1/3 because reasons. No drops by Polt, a nono when you want to be top 10 terran. Bad splits Strange build reasons
Last day people were pointing out that Terran was stupid to try to go for drops, instead they should collect their army and have some killing-instinct (the game was TY vs Effort).
I mean, its like a double punishment, if you drop you should get your shit together and if you get it together you should drop.
Im quite sure they are doing their best and playing to their strenghts.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 20 2014 04:42 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:40 stuchiu wrote:On May 20 2014 04:39 Glorfindel! wrote:On May 20 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote: Targa's ZvZ is good though. Polt's TvZ is not good. Funny how that seems to apply for every Terran? Come on, Polt does not have bad TvZ, but it is incredible hard for Terran to go even with Zerg. Balance stats are slowly but steady turning more and more in favour for the Zerg players. I think it is quite offensive then, saying Polt does not have good TvZ when he puts up such a game vs Armani, who won against Flash in the Code A-qualifier with 2-0 for an example. I don't think anyone has good TvZ except for Maru against anyone not named Soulkey. Though Inno is a giant ? for me. I guess I just compare players to the very best of their race. A holdover from a time when every Zerg sucked except for Nestea. Every Protoss sucked except for MC. EFFORT SAYS HELLO
Effort is like 1st or 2nd best ZvT now. And that was a fucking hard win for him too.
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United States97247 Posts
On May 20 2014 04:42 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:39 Shellshock wrote: Disappointed Stork didn't win the paid trip. I hope he sitll goes but idk trip from Korea is probably pretty expensive plus idk if his team would send him they sent Solar for the last Numericable Nup in France oh ok well maybe there's hope
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On May 20 2014 04:43 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2014 04:42 Faust852 wrote:On May 20 2014 04:40 stuchiu wrote:On May 20 2014 04:39 Glorfindel! wrote:On May 20 2014 04:33 stuchiu wrote: Targa's ZvZ is good though. Polt's TvZ is not good. Funny how that seems to apply for every Terran? Come on, Polt does not have bad TvZ, but it is incredible hard for Terran to go even with Zerg. Balance stats are slowly but steady turning more and more in favour for the Zerg players. I think it is quite offensive then, saying Polt does not have good TvZ when he puts up such a game vs Armani, who won against Flash in the Code A-qualifier with 2-0 for an example. I don't think anyone has good TvZ except for Maru against anyone not named Soulkey. Though Inno is a giant ? for me. I guess I just compare players to the very best of their race. A holdover from a time when every Zerg sucked except for Nestea. Every Protoss sucked except for MC. EFFORT SAYS HELLO Effort is like 1st or 2nd best ZvT now. And that was a fucking hard win for him too.
Well, I am sure Life, Soulkey and others would have something to say regarding that
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I hope they just sent Stork along, basically a half paid trip for both .
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