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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 04 2014 19:39 GMT
#1501
On May 05 2014 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
Jaedong has betrayed everything he ever stood for and used Swarmhosts.

But doens't he believe in winning?
Neosteel Enthusiast
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 04 2014 19:39 GMT
#1502
It doesn't destroy the scene, its how it is in every big individual sport and its what drives them, not the opposite. Tiger MADE golf what it is. Nadal, Fed etc are the drivers of worldwide interest in tennis etc.

You need dominating players and personalities to grow a scene. The game itself will never bring the same level of interest because only players/hardcore fans will watch.
Red and yellow are all I see
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
May 04 2014 19:39 GMT
#1503
On May 05 2014 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
Jaedong has betrayed everything he ever stood for and used Swarmhosts.

What's worrying is that it worked. He might start using them every game now.
Flash | Mvp
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 04 2014 19:39 GMT
#1504
so far each player has won one game with roaches and one game with swarmhosts
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1505
i really hope stephano wins this series..i want him in the finals
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1506
On May 05 2014 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
Jaedong has betrayed everything he ever stood for and used Swarmhosts.

He broke bad
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1507
On May 05 2014 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
Jaedong has betrayed everything he ever stood for and used Swarmhosts.

hes been tweeting a lot on how he likes stephano's play i believe


or it was eg conspiracy
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1508
On May 05 2014 04:39 GumBa wrote:
This thread took a turn

Just wait until they start arguing who the best foreigner is
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1509
On May 05 2014 04:39 Ctesias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
Jaedong has betrayed everything he ever stood for and used Swarmhosts.

What's worrying is that it worked. He might start using them every game now.


once you taste the SH ... :D
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1510
On May 05 2014 04:39 Orek wrote:
Winrates so far

Stephano: 50%
Jaedong 50%
Swarmhost 100%

Sounds about right!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1511
I want Jaedong to close this out now. Losing two games is too much.
Flash | Mvp
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 04 2014 19:40 GMT
#1512
lol Geoff.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 04 2014 19:41 GMT
#1513
On May 05 2014 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
It doesn't destroy the scene, its how it is in every big individual sport and its what drives them, not the opposite. Tiger MADE golf what it is. Nadal, Fed etc are the drivers of worldwide interest in tennis etc.

You need dominating players and personalities to grow a scene. The game itself will never bring the same level of interest because only players/hardcore fans will watch.

Tiger didn't make golf what it is by being popular. neither did Nadal and Fed dominate tennis because of their fanbase. They did it by being the best. how can you not see the difference? Stephano is NOT the best.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
May 04 2014 19:41 GMT
#1514
On May 05 2014 04:39 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
It doesn't destroy the scene, its how it is in every big individual sport and its what drives them, not the opposite. Tiger MADE golf what it is. Nadal, Fed etc are the drivers of worldwide interest in tennis etc.

You need dominating players and personalities to grow a scene. The game itself will never bring the same level of interest because only players/hardcore fans will watch.

This.
I love Jaedong. I love Stephano. I love this series.
40k viewers agree.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Nauseam
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden191 Posts
May 04 2014 19:41 GMT
#1515
On May 05 2014 04:29 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:23 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.

But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS.

wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles.


LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units.

Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours?

Jeez. These zerg fanboys.

ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH.



Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense.

To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.


yea it is possible to break them after using fucking swarm hosts/vipers to slowly wittle the fucking protoss down. What would happen if SH get nerfed and P goes skytoss? The zerg now has like no answer for it or to just trade super cost inefficient while he has a great economy.

I am saying it would also be more popular where you could play the game, and if you start to get pretty behind then you go skytoss while turtling so zerg cant really end so you get back in the game.

yes i watched the game where pet turtled in main while endless locust hit each other at the ramp. I do think stephano could have ended it with a muta switch at the end since he killed most of the spores or go BLs maybe. The thing is that could work or he could lose.


Did you even read my first post? I know Z has to go SH against skytoss and that's why the race design is so stupid. That SH creates hour long stalemate type of games as well makes it even more dumb and boring.

SH shouldn't get nerfed. They should be completely removed. And yes, P needs a redesign as well. Fact is though, P and T turtling doesn't create 2-3 hour long games.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
May 04 2014 19:41 GMT
#1516
Hm ... I have to say, JD's swarmhost game looked way classier than Stephano's, although I find that mass swarmhost super turtle clusterfuck style hilarious. And either way, I'm happy it went to game 5.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 04 2014 19:41 GMT
#1517
On May 05 2014 04:40 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:39 GumBa wrote:
This thread took a turn

Just wait until they start arguing who the best foreigner is


Nothing to argue, Nerchio knows.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 19:41 GMT
#1518
On May 05 2014 04:40 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:39 GumBa wrote:
This thread took a turn

Just wait until they start arguing who the best foreigner is

O god..Lorning hold me
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 04 2014 19:42 GMT
#1519
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 04 2014 19:42 GMT
#1520
On May 05 2014 04:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:39 stuchiu wrote:
Jaedong has betrayed everything he ever stood for and used Swarmhosts.

But doens't he believe in winning?


Does he, Does he really?

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