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On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:25 stuchiu wrote:On May 05 2014 04:24 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans. ok, so stephano fans are not starcraft 2 fans.. lol Well stream views go down when Stephano isnt playing. Which is really just a depressing commentary on the viewers
People like the players more than the game itself.
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United States23455 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:24 pigmanbear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....
jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?
yep koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in. Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach.
We are blessed by the presence of his ZvZ strategies! He's the perfect human!
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On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:25 stuchiu wrote:On May 05 2014 04:24 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans. ok, so stephano fans are not starcraft 2 fans.. lol Well stream views go down when Stephano isnt playing. Which is really just a depressing commentary on the viewers
What's wrong with being fan of a certain player and just follow his matches?
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On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:24 pigmanbear wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....
jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?
yep koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in. Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach. Stephano was literally famous for never scouting and just playing his own way...
That was against Protoss and terran where his standard was pretty much safe vs anything. ZvZ was different, and his worst match up.
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On May 05 2014 04:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
God, that sponsors "showup" (in mainbase) is quite disgusting..
do you really mean that? or are you internet-outraged only?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:24 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is. I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game. i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit.
I suppose these are the games I like watching:
Mvp vs TOP g1
MMA vs Gumiho
Gumiho vs Losira
Ryung vs DRG
Ryung vs Flash
Ryung vs Polt
Polt vs DRG
Life vs Leenock
Gumiho vs Creator
Supernova vs TY
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On May 05 2014 04:26 _SpiRaL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans. Bullshit. I have seen SH games from other players I loved, and SH Stephano games that sucked (like yesterday vs Pet). If you don't like game 2 then you don't really like the game.
The view count actually dramatically increased during game two, believe it or not.
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United States97276 Posts
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven
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On May 05 2014 04:27 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
God, that sponsors "showup" (in mainbase) is quite disgusting.. do you really mean that? or are you internet-outraged only?
I think it's neat gameheart feature, although it could use a little bit cleaning up.
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On May 05 2014 04:27 _SpiRaL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:On May 05 2014 04:24 pigmanbear wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....
jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?
yep koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in. Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach. Stephano was literally famous for never scouting and just playing his own way... That was against Protoss and terran where his standard was pretty much safe vs anything. ZvZ was different, and his worst match up.
When Stephano was able to get up a third Hatchery before 6 minutes he was able to stand toe-to-toe with any Korean Terran or Protoss. In ZvZ it is much more difficult to establish that third so he struggled more in the match-up.
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On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven
Swarmhosts were here to save us all along.
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On May 05 2014 04:27 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
God, that sponsors "showup" (in mainbase) is quite disgusting.. do you really mean that? or are you internet-outraged only?
idk what internet-outraged means... 
I mean those look so dumb but luckly they are shown only at beginning.
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On May 05 2014 04:28 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:24 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is. I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game. i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit. I suppose these are the games I like watching: Mvp vs TOP g1 MMA vs Gumiho Gumiho vs Losira Ryung vs DRG Ryung vs Flash Ryung vs Polt Polt vs DRG Life vs Leenock Gumiho vs Creator Supernova vs TY
all of these games are great. what does that have to do with anything though? 
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On May 05 2014 04:23 Nauseam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.
But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS. wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles. LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units. Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours? Jeez. These zerg fanboys. ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH. Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense. To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.
yea it is possible to break them after using fucking swarm hosts/vipers to slowly wittle the fucking protoss down. What would happen if SH get nerfed and P goes skytoss? The zerg now has like no answer for it or to just trade super cost inefficient while he has a great economy.
I am saying it would also be more popular where you could play the game, and if you start to get pretty behind then you go skytoss while turtling so zerg cant really end so you get back in the game.
yes i watched the game where pet turtled in main while endless locust hit each other at the ramp. I do think stephano could have ended it with a muta switch at the end since he killed most of the spores or go BLs maybe. The thing is that could work or he could lose.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven
MOBA fans like that shit
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On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:25 stuchiu wrote:On May 05 2014 04:24 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans. ok, so stephano fans are not starcraft 2 fans.. lol Well stream views go down when Stephano isnt playing. Which is really just a depressing commentary on the viewers
well maybe the would get more viewers if twitch didn't lag as much as it did
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:29 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:28 stuchiu wrote:On May 05 2014 04:24 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is. I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game. i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit. I suppose these are the games I like watching: Mvp vs TOP g1 MMA vs Gumiho Gumiho vs Losira Ryung vs DRG Ryung vs Flash Ryung vs Polt Polt vs DRG Life vs Leenock Gumiho vs Creator Supernova vs TY all of these games are great. what does that have to do with anything though?
I always compare games to games like that. thats all.
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On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven
Well the viewers are wrong >
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On May 05 2014 04:29 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven MOBA fans like that shit
just fucking stop the inferiority complex.
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On May 05 2014 04:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:27 tshi wrote:On May 05 2014 04:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
God, that sponsors "showup" (in mainbase) is quite disgusting.. do you really mean that? or are you internet-outraged only? idk what internet-outraged means... I mean those look so dumb but luckly they are shown only at beginning.
TB said on Unfiltered that that feature helped with getting sponsors though.
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