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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#1401
On May 05 2014 04:26 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty

Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS


im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant


It is easy to understand.
People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins.
People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans.


Bullshit.

I have seen SH games from other players I loved, and SH Stephano games that sucked (like yesterday vs Pet).

If you don't like game 2 then you don't really like the game.

Oh really? You are the authority on who and who doesn't like the game? Just because in Game 2 JD was losing units doesn't make it good. He tried several ways to win and got shut down by an endless rally of locusts and static defense. It wasn't a great game. If it wasn't Stephano no one would give a shit about it.

SC2 is so much better than that game.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
May 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#1402
On May 05 2014 04:29 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven

MOBA fans like that shit

At least ratting usually has a cost for the "free units".
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#1403
On May 05 2014 04:27 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:25 stuchiu wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:24 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty

Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS


im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant


It is easy to understand.
People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins.
People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans.


ok, so stephano fans are not starcraft 2 fans.. lol


Well stream views go down when Stephano isnt playing.

Which is really just a depressing commentary on the viewers


What's wrong with being fan of a certain player and just follow his matches?

I just really hate that everyone says "Oh Stephano and Nani are great for the scene because viewer counts go up." "Lel 10k less viewers now that Jaedong got knocked out" and the like.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 04 2014 19:30 GMT
#1404
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven

Replace tanks and colossus with Swarmhosts and we will get 1-2 million average views within a year for each stream.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
May 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#1405
On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:24 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....

jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?



yep

koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known

No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in.

Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach.

Stephano was literally famous for never scouting and just playing his own way...

Stephano scouts to get the information he needs, like Korean progamers do. He doesn't vodoo scout like most foreigners.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 19:31:31
May 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#1406
On May 05 2014 04:29 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven

MOBA fans like that shit

I'm just saying... Stream went up like 8k viewers during Stephano vs petraeus. Mana vs firecake most viewed challenger game
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#1407
On May 05 2014 04:30 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:29 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:28 stuchiu wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:24 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty

Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS

i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is.

I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game.

i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit.


I suppose these are the games I like watching:

Mvp vs TOP g1
MMA vs Gumiho
Gumiho vs Losira
Ryung vs DRG
Ryung vs Flash
Ryung vs Polt
Polt vs DRG
Life vs Leenock
Gumiho vs Creator
Supernova vs TY

all of these games are great. what does that have to do with anything though?


I always compare games to games like that. thats all.

hm ok. so where does the Swarmhost game of this series rank?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#1408
Swarmhosts are actually saving esports
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
May 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#1409
On May 05 2014 04:28 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:24 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty

Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS

i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is.

I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game.

i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit.

Ryung vs Flash

Holy shit, that game on Whirlwind. So awesome in every way.
Flash | Mvp
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
May 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#1410
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven

My reasoning for this is simple. When do people generally stop watching a tournament? In the breaks, most people want some kind of "closure". If a game goes 2 hours, people generally would rather wait and finish before moving on, rather than quit watching midgame, and so new people keep coming to the stream but less people are leaving until the game ends.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#1411
On May 05 2014 04:30 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:29 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven

MOBA fans like that shit

just fucking stop the inferiority complex.

Just a joke. You don't need to feel threatened
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#1412
On May 05 2014 04:31 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:24 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....

jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?



yep

koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known

No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in.

Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach.

Stephano was literally famous for never scouting and just playing his own way...

Stephano scouts to get the information he needs, like Korean progamers do. He doesn't vodoo scout like most foreigners.

No literally he was famous for never drone scouting. Go back and listen to past interviews. He would not scout. At all.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#1413
On May 05 2014 04:31 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:26 Yorkie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:24 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....

jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?



yep

koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known

No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in.

Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach.

Stephano was literally famous for never scouting and just playing his own way...

Stephano scouts to get the information he needs, like Korean progamers do. He doesn't vodoo scout like most foreigners.

We get it you think Stephano is the best. And he is the best foreigner. However, he was known for not scouting in WoL.
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oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
May 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#1414
On May 05 2014 04:32 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:30 oogieogie wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:29 Lorning wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:28 Shellshock wrote:
Swarmhost games bring in viewers. It has been proven

MOBA fans like that shit

just fucking stop the inferiority complex.

Just a joke. You don't need to feel threatened

I cant stand the MOBA jokes anymore with how SC2 is with them.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#1415
On May 05 2014 04:28 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:24 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty

Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS

i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is.

I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game.

i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit.


I suppose these are the games I like watching:

Mvp vs TOP g1
MMA vs Gumiho
Gumiho vs Losira
Ryung vs DRG
Ryung vs Flash
Ryung vs Polt
Polt vs DRG
Life vs Leenock
Gumiho vs Creator
Supernova vs TY

Dat list
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 04 2014 19:32 GMT
#1416
On May 05 2014 04:30 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:26 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty

Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS


im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant


It is easy to understand.
People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins.
People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans.


Bullshit.

I have seen SH games from other players I loved, and SH Stephano games that sucked (like yesterday vs Pet).

If you don't like game 2 then you don't really like the game.

Oh really? You are the authority on who and who doesn't like the game? Just because in Game 2 JD was losing units doesn't make it good. He tried several ways to win and got shut down by an endless rally of locusts and static defense. It wasn't a great game. If it wasn't Stephano no one would give a shit about it.

SC2 is so much better than that game.


Nothing to do with authority. If you only like very specific SC2 played in the way YOU want then you don't like the game. That's just logical. Like if someone only likes watching tiki taka football and nothing else doesn't really like football.

People would give a shit about it if it was someone else, I assure you, you are wrong.
Red and yellow are all I see
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 04 2014 19:33 GMT
#1417
Nice save on that hatch.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 04 2014 19:33 GMT
#1418
2-2
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
May 04 2014 19:33 GMT
#1419
lol steph, go kill him now jaedong plz
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
May 04 2014 19:33 GMT
#1420
Wow those roaches died way faster than I'd thought. With the 3rd alive it's gonna be difficult
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