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On May 05 2014 04:14 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:10 Nauseam wrote:On May 05 2014 04:04 oogieogie wrote:On May 05 2014 04:04 Nauseam wrote:
This is just horrible to watch.
But I actually think it's a good thing Stephano is doing this in front of so many viewers and Blizzards eyes just to show just how horribly broken the design of zerg and the concept of free units is in a RTS. wait till we get a game where the zerg has a massive advantage, and then terran or protoss just turtles. LOL. What are you talking about? Protoss turtles all the time and terrans do from time to time as well. Neither P or T has any free units so P or T turtling will NEVER drag on for hours and hours. Such a stalemate situation can only happen with free units. Or do you actually believe that if Z has massive advantage against P and then the P players turtles as much as he can, the game will drag on for hours? Jeez. These zerg fanboys. ugh..its a stalemate in the zerg can only atk the protoss effectively with SH while the P cant move out either or they just turtled to where they could. Why doesn't the Z just end it? He is trying to, but is trading very cost efficient because he is vsing like tempest templar archon void rays with a bunch of cannons and shit. The zerg has a hard time breaking it, and cant really so they are forced to go SH.
Sure. I can agree on that turtling on 3 base is just too good in SC2 but it is still possible to break a turtling P or T player whereas SH turtling is impossible to break once you reach that critical mass of SH and static defense.
To be honest, P or T turtling is not even remote to swarm host turtling. Did you even watch the game last night? When did you ever see P or T turtle play make a game drag on for 2-3 hours? I can answer that for you: Never.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
O SHIT! STEPHANO VS POLT FINALS
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On May 05 2014 04:21 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:20 Incognoto wrote:
oh it's bO5
boring
stephano just win this
this coming from a guy who never cheered for you when you were in your prime
not sure why
maybe i root for the underdog Jaedong is trying to fight swarmhosts, he's the underdog.
They should have a Swarmhost invitational, half the tournament the best Swarmhosters and the other half pure Zergs and we'll all have plenty of alcohol and cry.
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On May 05 2014 04:23 Dodgin wrote:
by the way I gave up yesterday but how did the 2-3 hour swarmhost zvz end?
Petraeus mercifully left.
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On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is. I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game.
But it wasn't a stalemate game... there was constant repositioning and attacks back and forth. It's like watching a good siege tank battle in a different way.
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Stephano is the Hero that we need, but don't deserve.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:23 Dodgin wrote:
by the way I gave up yesterday but how did the 2-3 hour swarmhost zvz end?
Petreaus gave up after they said they wouldnt call it a draw.
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On May 05 2014 04:21 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:21 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 05 2014 04:00 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 03:59 i.of.the.storm wrote:
You know, if they hadn't decided to make spores hard counter zerg air, we probably would not be in this situation. They didn't foresee this. At the beginning of HotS it was ALL muta vs muta so the spore buff was actually approved by most people who wanted some variety. Then this happened. I know, to be fair mutas became really hard to manage in ZvZ with the speed buff, but maybe dialing it back a bit would be ok. Like maybe, 30 dmg vs bio air instead of 45? The better solution would of course be to make a unit better counter mutas, but they probably don't want to do that before LotV. Heh, spent 15 minutes trying to figure out a unit tester extension mod. I was hoping maybe 50 banelings could clear out a swarm host contain, but it seems like that's wishful thinking. Also, does anyone remember back when Jaedong first switched to SC2, he used to say his favorite player was Stephano? I wonder how he feels about Stephano now... scaling spore dmg isn't the solution here. SH's needs a massive overhaul
I know it's not the "right" solution, but it's what enables the static defense turtle. If you could actually pick off swarm hosts with mass mutas the turtling would just not work. But that doesn't solve PvZ of course, so you still need to fix swarm hosts.
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Come on, guys! Let's do this!
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On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans.
ok, so stephano fans are not starcraft 2 fans.. lol
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On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans.
While I am a Stephano fan..people could like the games because they are also fucking hilarious from the chat/LR threads.
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On May 05 2014 04:23 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:21 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:21 i.of.the.storm wrote:On May 05 2014 04:00 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 03:59 i.of.the.storm wrote:
You know, if they hadn't decided to make spores hard counter zerg air, we probably would not be in this situation. They didn't foresee this. At the beginning of HotS it was ALL muta vs muta so the spore buff was actually approved by most people who wanted some variety. Then this happened. I know, to be fair mutas became really hard to manage in ZvZ with the speed buff, but maybe dialing it back a bit would be ok. Like maybe, 30 dmg vs bio air instead of 45? The better solution would of course be to make a unit better counter mutas, but they probably don't want to do that before LotV. Heh, spent 15 minutes trying to figure out a unit tester extension mod. I was hoping maybe 50 banelings could clear out a swarm host contain, but it seems like that's wishful thinking. Also, does anyone remember back when Jaedong first switched to SC2, he used to say his favorite player was Stephano? I wonder how he feels about Stephano now... scaling spore dmg isn't the solution here. SH's needs a massive overhaul so would skytoss
Fine do both. As long as we don't have to see these ZvZ's anymore that's fine.
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On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is. I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game.
i disagree with you, but that's fair enough. i understand why some people don't like it. the games still haven't been as good as the long macro games in the late stages of the war3 scene, but i enjoy this shit.
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On May 05 2014 04:19 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:18 jaebigdong wrote:
let me get this right....
jaedong, who's best matchup is ZvZ, is losing to a retired foreigner who's worst matchup is ZvZ and just plays in his spare time?
yep koreans have a stephano complex this is well-known
No "complex," Stephano just does none of the stupid foreigner shit that every single foreigner besides him does. He actually scouts his opponent, always. He pressures while macroing. While macroing! He doesn't impatiently all-in.
Basically, Stephano is a Korean. Anyway that's how I feel watching him play vs. foreigners, they are a class apart. Watching Patraeus beating him yesterday was sort of like watching him beat Life or somebody? You knew Stephano was going to find a way because he is playing the game on a different level, one most foreigners seem unable to reach.
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On May 05 2014 04:23 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:23 Dodgin wrote:
by the way I gave up yesterday but how did the 2-3 hour swarmhost zvz end? Petreaus gave up after they said they wouldnt call it a draw.
aww I was hoping for a dq stephano win
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On May 05 2014 04:23 GumBa wrote:
O SHIT! STEPHANO VS POLT FINALS
It's like 2012 all over again.
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Hello y'all! How have the games been. I see Stephano is up 2-1...all SH games?!?
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On May 05 2014 04:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:22 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 Schelim wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS i mean that's fair enough if you don't like the hosts. but it's not Stephano's fault that the game is the way it is. I will restate I don't hate the player here. I just don't like this aspect of the game. But it wasn't a stalemate game... there was constant repositioning and attacks back and forth. It's like watching a good siege tank battle in a different way.
Repositioning of locust generators and back and forth attacks of locusts?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:24 cheekymonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:23 Qwerty85 wrote:On May 05 2014 04:20 cheekymonkey wrote:On May 05 2014 04:19 Darkhorse wrote:On May 05 2014 04:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
JD fanboys tears so salty but tasty Nah I don't even like JD and I think game 3 is fine. However, I think game 2 and the vs Petraeus game last night showcases some really shitty game design that RUSTLES MAH JIMMEHS im just trying to understand how people are not entertained but rather frustrated by this right here here, but i cant It is easy to understand. People who are entertained = Stephano fans. They don't care what he does as long as he wins. People who are annoyed/frustrated = Starcraft 2 fans. ok, so stephano fans are not starcraft 2 fans.. lol
Well stream views go down when Stephano isnt playing.
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lol stephano still has RC in his ID
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