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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#721
TY still the better player imo just there are days where MC just wins oit of nowhere.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#722
On April 27 2014 19:23 Lorning wrote:
(Z)Snute takes game 1
Poll: Recommend HyuN vs Snute Game 1?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
11%

★★★- Good game (4)
 
44%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (4)
 
44%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend HyuN vs Snute Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
April 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#723
poor zanster...

he is building spine crawlers while JD is up 10+ drones
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#724
On April 27 2014 19:21 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:19 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:13 scypio wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:11 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:09 juvenal wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:06 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Boss + Toss = ?!

everyone can be bosstoss these days. They even played a funny game "crown a new one every other tournament" until zest showed consistence.

Why is everyone replying with balance whining? Is it like this ALL the time? Just fucking admit that player A sucked and player B ruled and that's why the game ended up the way it did. Blame the player, not the game.


Because seeing the same race win every single thing is boring and mindnumbing. Have you seen 2014 results?

Nope. But this was a common trend in Broodwar as well, races performing well. Blaming it all on the game and dev. fixes is rofl. Balance is a sensitive thing. By neglecting the players as "the balancers" you piss on the Esports as you think you know how the game should be, changing the core again and again. You can never reach perfection except within yourself. Take a good look in the mirror and think: Why me?

You started off making sense and then came self reflection nonsense wth

Exactly like every single balance whining post. They make sense when they portray the problem. They make no sense when they blame the game and employees of Blizzard.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
April 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#725
On April 27 2014 19:18 Foreverkul wrote:
Nobody knows how MC won, by all accounts, TY outplayed in basically every aspect. MC shrugged off the loss of his entire army as Protoss, very expensive units, and it was not even a problem. Even MC himself seemed surprised he won!
TY had more bases, he had better tech, he took better fights, he dealt more economic damage, harassed all game. MC is good, but so is TY, and TY showed it in this game. Everyone was shocked, and for good reason.


MC didn't lose his entire army lol, he had like 10+ templar spread around his bases and pockets of zealots everywhere. He lost a ton of units, mostly stalker and colossi, but Ty also threw away like 10-15 ghosts in the middle of the map after missing an observer. He did not take better fights, did not have better tech, and he harassed all game but the last 10+ minutes were him sending drops into MC's main where very little was and them getting feedbacked and stormed to death without doing anything.
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
April 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#726
On April 27 2014 19:22 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:21 juvenal wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:14 liberate71 wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:09 juvenal wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:06 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Boss + Toss = ?!

everyone can be bosstoss these days. They even played a funny game "crown a new one every other tournament" until zest showed consistence.


Piss off, not everyone can play like MC.

right you are: herO, $100000$ and zest are better.

herO lost against TY the last time they met

10 times the player
Michael Probu
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
April 27 2014 10:25 GMT
#727
HyuN losing 40 supply of roaches after snute defends the harass, he lost way too many roaches on harass and left the hydras without anything to keep snutes roaches far, so he just lost everything.
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 10:32:33
April 27 2014 10:26 GMT
#728
On April 27 2014 19:18 Foreverkul wrote:
Nobody knows how MC won, by all accounts, TY outplayed in basically every aspect. MC shrugged off the loss of his entire army as Protoss, very expensive units, and it was not even a problem. Even MC himself seemed surprised he won!
TY had more bases, he had better tech, he took better fights, he dealt more economic damage, harassed all game. MC is good, but so is TY, and TY showed it in this game. Everyone was shocked, and for good reason.


That game deserves re-watching. But, I don't think TY took the better fights. Only one was a comprehensive win to TY (the one where he sniped all MC's obs). But, otherwise, I think they were either even trades or MC had the better of them.

Also, bear in mind MC loves these kinds of scrappy games. The last one that comes immediately to mind is MC vs JD on Whirlwind. MC looked done and out after a failed all-in (and JD's counter killing an Artosis pylon). Somehow, MC won.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 27 2014 10:26 GMT
#729
just looked at the money distribution and reaching the ro16 makes you win exactly 0$ now that sucks
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 10:28:33
April 27 2014 10:26 GMT
#730
On April 27 2014 19:24 GumBa wrote:
TY still the better player imo just there are days where MC just wins oit of nowhere.

MC is exactly this kind of player, which is liked by many just for his legacy. MC is very good only against terrans these days, look at the games he played recently.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
April 27 2014 10:27 GMT
#731
On April 27 2014 19:19 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:13 scypio wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:11 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:09 juvenal wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:06 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Boss + Toss = ?!

everyone can be bosstoss these days. They even played a funny game "crown a new one every other tournament" until zest showed consistence.

Why is everyone replying with balance whining? Is it like this ALL the time? Just fucking admit that player A sucked and player B ruled and that's why the game ended up the way it did. Blame the player, not the game.


Because seeing the same race win every single thing is boring and mindnumbing. Have you seen 2014 results?

Nope. But this was a common trend in Broodwar as well, races performing well. Blaming it all on the game and dev. fixes is rofl. Balance is a sensitive thing. By neglecting the players as "the balancers" you piss on the Esports as you think you know how the game should be, changing the core again and again. You can never reach perfection except within yourself. Take a good look in the mirror and think: Why me?


Lmao, balance isn't some mystical spiritual experience. It's a fact, the game's either balanced or it's not. If the legitimacy of esports is so fragile that talking about the fact of its artificial design endangers it, then esports doesn't deserve to be legitimate. Fortunately I couldn't agree less with your point.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
April 27 2014 10:27 GMT
#732
Protoss is very good against terrans these days.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 27 2014 10:27 GMT
#733
On April 27 2014 19:24 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:21 GumBa wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:19 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:13 scypio wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:11 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:09 juvenal wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:06 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Boss + Toss = ?!

everyone can be bosstoss these days. They even played a funny game "crown a new one every other tournament" until zest showed consistence.

Why is everyone replying with balance whining? Is it like this ALL the time? Just fucking admit that player A sucked and player B ruled and that's why the game ended up the way it did. Blame the player, not the game.


Because seeing the same race win every single thing is boring and mindnumbing. Have you seen 2014 results?

Nope. But this was a common trend in Broodwar as well, races performing well. Blaming it all on the game and dev. fixes is rofl. Balance is a sensitive thing. By neglecting the players as "the balancers" you piss on the Esports as you think you know how the game should be, changing the core again and again. You can never reach perfection except within yourself. Take a good look in the mirror and think: Why me?

You started off making sense and then came self reflection nonsense wth

Exactly like every single balance whining post. They make sense when they portray the problem. They make no sense when they blame the game and employees of Blizzard.

But what if the game is the problem. There have been people who have give well thought opinions on why somethings are broken like WG and SH.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
April 27 2014 10:27 GMT
#734
omg they hype up JD so much, and 2 hours later he will just lose against the next toss or terran he meets.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
April 27 2014 10:27 GMT
#735
JvZ in action
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
April 27 2014 10:28 GMT
#736
Jaedong just DESTROYED Zanster...

And this was early pool vs 15pool
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 27 2014 10:28 GMT
#737
On April 27 2014 19:27 phil.ipp wrote:
omg they hype up JD so much, and 2 hours later he will just lose against the next toss or terran he meets.

but his zvz remains truly hypeworthy
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
April 27 2014 10:28 GMT
#738
lol jd vs zanster reminded me of te 1a2a3a micro map
Michael Probu
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 27 2014 10:28 GMT
#739
Perfect play. More JvZ pls.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
April 27 2014 10:28 GMT
#740
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