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kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
April 27 2014 10:15 GMT
#681
MC outplayed TY
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 27 2014 10:15 GMT
#682
Razer should spend more time making their products better instead of doing so much marketing.
And that's coming from a guy who had a full razer set of peripherals.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
April 27 2014 10:15 GMT
#683
On April 27 2014 19:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:11 architecture wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:08 herMan wrote:
OK before people start to scream for injustice, here's a few things TY did wrong:

1. drops didn't do shit after 15min mark
2. didn't repair/produce more vikings -> colossi reign supreme
3. bad attack positions such as attacking the fourth from the north in a bottleneck, resulting in being killed while routed
4. didn't keep MC's economy in check
5. afraid to deny MC's third after deflecting the all-in


1. drops late game are shit because of massive gate count + warpin, but the same 10 food in your main army doesnt do shit either
2. yea this was a big mistake
4. what economy? mc had less mining

4. ofc MC had less mining, it's TvP


That doesn't make any sense. Protoss has less mineral mining in TvP because they are more gas dependent but protoss is usually not behind in income compared to terran because their mineral/gas ratio of units is much better than terran ratio.

So in typical TvP 2 base protoss actually has slightly better economy than 2 base terran so that is why terran needs to be ahead a base to be even. In this particular game, MC was on 45 probes most of the time which is like 20 short of what protoss should have.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
April 27 2014 10:16 GMT
#684
Too bad ToD won't get to face MC. Bunny's TvP is amazebawlz ~
Cogito, ergo toss.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 10:16 GMT
#685
For those interested
(T)Maru vs (Z)Soulkey coming up in PL
http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
April 27 2014 10:16 GMT
#686
On April 27 2014 19:12 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:11 Vasoline73 wrote:
That is why PvP is the best matchup... it's perfectly balanced...


Unlike ZvZ. That Matchup is just a trainwreck for Terran.

No warp gate tho
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
April 27 2014 10:16 GMT
#687
On April 27 2014 19:15 Noocta wrote:
Razer should spend more time making their products better instead of doing so much marketing.
And that's coming from a guy who had a full razer set of peripherals.


You just described every company in the world. ^^
It's so sad how much money is spent into marketing
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
April 27 2014 10:17 GMT
#688
On April 27 2014 19:16 Lorning wrote:
For those interested
(T)Maru vs (Z)Soulkey coming up in PL
http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague


Too much going on right now
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 27 2014 10:17 GMT
#689
Wouldn't be surprised if Snute defeats HyuN. He has a pretty good head to head record against him
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 27 2014 10:17 GMT
#690
On April 27 2014 19:15 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:11 architecture wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:08 herMan wrote:
OK before people start to scream for injustice, here's a few things TY did wrong:

1. drops didn't do shit after 15min mark
2. didn't repair/produce more vikings -> colossi reign supreme
3. bad attack positions such as attacking the fourth from the north in a bottleneck, resulting in being killed while routed
4. didn't keep MC's economy in check
5. afraid to deny MC's third after deflecting the all-in


1. drops late game are shit because of massive gate count + warpin, but the same 10 food in your main army doesnt do shit either
2. yea this was a big mistake
4. what economy? mc had less mining

4. ofc MC had less mining, it's TvP


That doesn't make any sense. Protoss has less mineral mining in TvP because they are more gas dependent but protoss is usually not behind in income compared to terran because their mineral/gas ratio of units is much better than terran ratio.

So in typical TvP 2 base protoss actually has slightly better economy than 2 base terran so that is why terran needs to be ahead a base to be even. In this particular game, MC was on 45 probes most of the time which is like 20 short of what protoss should have.

No, usually terran is ahead in economy, mules.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 27 2014 10:18 GMT
#691
snute's zvz is like always literally always the same
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Kerence
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1817 Posts
April 27 2014 10:18 GMT
#692
On April 27 2014 19:15 Noocta wrote:
Razer should spend more time making their products better instead of doing so much marketing.
And that's coming from a guy who had a full razer set of peripherals.

If they had spent less on marketing maybe you wouldn't have had a full set of their stuff? I guess that's their reasoning.
I am here in the shadows.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
April 27 2014 10:18 GMT
#693
Artosis+Incontrol+JD=Awesomesauce :D
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
April 27 2014 10:18 GMT
#694
MC has long become one of those players who can just jump out of nowhere and spoil the fun.
TY was unlucky to meet him before some toss would knock him out. I am sad by this win.
Foreverkul
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1649 Posts
April 27 2014 10:18 GMT
#695
Nobody knows how MC won, by all accounts, TY outplayed in basically every aspect. MC shrugged off the loss of his entire army as Protoss, very expensive units, and it was not even a problem. Even MC himself seemed surprised he won!
TY had more bases, he had better tech, he took better fights, he dealt more economic damage, harassed all game. MC is good, but so is TY, and TY showed it in this game. Everyone was shocked, and for good reason.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 27 2014 10:18 GMT
#696
On April 27 2014 19:15 Noocta wrote:
Razer should spend more time making their products better instead of doing so much marketing.
And that's coming from a guy who had a full razer set of peripherals.

Marketings goal is to get you to buy there stuff. It worked so money well spent.

Want a company to make better stuff? Buy there competitions stuff.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 10:19:55
April 27 2014 10:19 GMT
#697
On April 27 2014 19:16 Lorning wrote:
For those interested
(T)Maru vs (Z)Soulkey coming up in PL
http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague


Thx. But gotta watch the Dong. :O
It's sad to see two great SC2 events at the same time.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 27 2014 10:19 GMT
#698
Would be amazing if Zanster could take this

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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
April 27 2014 10:19 GMT
#699
On April 27 2014 19:13 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2014 19:11 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:09 juvenal wrote:
On April 27 2014 19:06 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Boss + Toss = ?!

everyone can be bosstoss these days. They even played a funny game "crown a new one every other tournament" until zest showed consistence.

Why is everyone replying with balance whining? Is it like this ALL the time? Just fucking admit that player A sucked and player B ruled and that's why the game ended up the way it did. Blame the player, not the game.


Because seeing the same race win every single thing is boring and mindnumbing. Have you seen 2014 results?

Nope. But this was a common trend in Broodwar as well, races performing well. Blaming it all on the game and dev. fixes is rofl. Balance is a sensitive thing. By neglecting the players as "the balancers" you piss on the Esports as you think you know how the game should be, changing the core again and again. You can never reach perfection except within yourself. Take a good look in the mirror and think: Why me?
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
April 27 2014 10:19 GMT
#700
On April 27 2014 19:15 kaykoose wrote:
MC outplayed TY


Goddamn, do I disagree.
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