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United States97276 Posts
On April 11 2014 16:12 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 16:08 Shellshock wrote:On April 11 2014 16:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Journey spawns in the top right  ByuL spawns in the top left Journey lifts to the gold 1:30 overlord scout sees the gold base taken by Journey rax for Journey 2:00 hatch first for ByuL 2nd rax for Journey pool for ByuL 3:00 bunker started at the bottom of ByuL's natural ramp 3 scvs are pulled with the first marine 2 spines started for ByuL 4:00 2nd bunker at the bottom of the natural ramp CC for Journey lings swung around the lower part of the map marines rallied behind the wall so the lings don't do anything but scout 5:00 gas for ByuL double gas for Journey 3rd bunker started for Journey ByuL moving his creep downt he ramp and repositioning his spines bunkers are being killed instead of salvaged 6:00-7 Journey floating his new CC back to his natural CC started in Journey's main another gas for ByuL ling speed for ByuL ling kills the building scv on the main base CC baneling nest for ByuL 8:00 46 vs 50 double evo for ByuL stim research for Journey Starport building for Journey 3rd base for ByuL 1-1 ling upgrades started for ByuL 9:00 60 vs 66 double ebay for Journey Lair for ByuL medivacs for Journey 1-1 started for Journey 10:00 73 vs 75 2 more rax for Journey "Journey is the Thanksgiving Terran because Dear gave him the series (thanks) and he's the king of floats" - Artosis Journey pressuring on creep with his hellions widow mines for Journey
11:00-12 105 vs 100
spire for ByuL
baneling speed for ByuL
double drop in the main of ByuL is forced to lift
hellion pressure at the 3rd is defended but 4 drones are killed
4th base for ByuL in the bottom left
armory for Journey
2nd factory for Journey
marine medivac hellion pressure at the 3rd of ByuL
2-2 started for ByuL
4th of ByuL is scouted
mutas started for ByuL
lings force a lift on Journey's pressure
13:00 129 vs 126
2-2 started for Journey
+1 flier attack for ByuL
combat shields for Journey
drilling claws for Journey
14:00 144 vs 150
ling runby to the original naturla of Journey
drop in the main of ByuL
drop in the natural of ByuL dies to mutas
marine attack at the 4th of ByuL
4th of ByuL is killed
mutas clean up the drop in the main
+1 vehicle weapons for Journey
hellbats started for Journey
overlord speed for ByuL
15:00 136 vs 151
4th base restarted for ByuL
ByuL moving across the map
2 more rax for Journey
mutas kill a full medivac
muta harass at the gold is deflected by a repaired turret
blue flame research for Journey
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On April 11 2014 16:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 16:11 Circumstance wrote:On April 11 2014 16:08 EthanS wrote:On April 11 2014 16:05 Gamegene wrote:On April 11 2014 16:02 Circumstance wrote:
Widow Mines are "like a spell caster".
Ladies and gentlemen, the #1 commentator from the Caster Power Rankings. Not very fair considering the context of that quote. He was alluding to cost efficiency. If one widow mine can get off multiple hits... If one templar can get off multiple storm kills... Etc. If one marauder can get off a concussive shell...? WM is only "like" a caster in that its a big gamble - jackpot or bust It's also like a spell caster in that it's a spell caster. But hey, details. That's wrong, it isn't. You don't cast spells. It's spell damage, doesn't make the unit a spellcaster.
When its only method of attacking is a method that deals spell damage, it's a caster, energy be damned.
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I'm becoming a Journey fan, unfortunate we might never see him again
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???
Pretty clear that this entire game was prepared by Journey rather than a last minute strategy out of desperation. It's pretty smart when you think about it:
Since Journey was able to secure the Gold as his main base, suddenly taking Base 3 (and 2 along the way) is much easier, especially with the buildings in the middle of the map. If you were to traditionally expand from your main to the gold, you'd have a lot more issues with space control + he's able to take both bases faster, which is why Journey has a supply lead right now.
Artosis dismissing a gold lift, when really it's a well thought out strategy.
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On April 11 2014 16:14 aZealot wrote:
Holy crap, I come back to see Journey make it through vs Dear. Can anyone give me a recap of the games, please?
First game Dear macro kills Journey, second game Journey bunkers inside Dear's main and Dear is too indecisive in defending, third game Dear goes for 5-VR + Gate pressure but Journey holds and runs him over. Dear definitely didn't play the best SC of his career.
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Austria24417 Posts
On April 11 2014 16:15 Circumstance wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 16:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 11 2014 16:11 Circumstance wrote:On April 11 2014 16:08 EthanS wrote:On April 11 2014 16:05 Gamegene wrote:On April 11 2014 16:02 Circumstance wrote:
Widow Mines are "like a spell caster".
Ladies and gentlemen, the #1 commentator from the Caster Power Rankings. Not very fair considering the context of that quote. He was alluding to cost efficiency. If one widow mine can get off multiple hits... If one templar can get off multiple storm kills... Etc. If one marauder can get off a concussive shell...? WM is only "like" a caster in that its a big gamble - jackpot or bust It's also like a spell caster in that it's a spell caster. But hey, details. That's wrong, it isn't. You don't cast spells. It's spell damage, doesn't make the unit a spellcaster. When its only method of attacking is a method that deals spell damage, it's a caster, energy be damned.
Then that's your opinion.
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United States97276 Posts
On April 11 2014 16:15 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 16:12 Shellshock wrote:On April 11 2014 16:08 Shellshock wrote:On April 11 2014 16:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00 Journey spawns in the top right ByuL spawns in the top left Journey lifts to the gold 1:30 overlord scout sees the gold base taken by Journey rax for Journey 2:00 hatch first for ByuL 2nd rax for Journey pool for ByuL 3:00 bunker started at the bottom of ByuL's natural ramp 3 scvs are pulled with the first marine 2 spines started for ByuL 4:00 2nd bunker at the bottom of the natural ramp CC for Journey lings swung around the lower part of the map marines rallied behind the wall so the lings don't do anything but scout 5:00 gas for ByuL double gas for Journey 3rd bunker started for Journey ByuL moving his creep downt he ramp and repositioning his spines bunkers are being killed instead of salvaged 6:00-7 Journey floating his new CC back to his natural CC started in Journey's main another gas for ByuL ling speed for ByuL ling kills the building scv on the main base CC baneling nest for ByuL 8:00 46 vs 50 double evo for ByuL stim research for Journey Starport building for Journey 3rd base for ByuL 1-1 ling upgrades started for ByuL 9:00 60 vs 66 double ebay for Journey Lair for ByuL medivacs for Journey 1-1 started for Journey 10:00 73 vs 75 2 more rax for Journey "Journey is the Thanksgiving Terran because Dear gave him the series (thanks) and he's the king of floats" - Artosis Journey pressuring on creep with his hellions widow mines for Journey 11:00-12 105 vs 100 spire for ByuL baneling speed for ByuL double drop in the main of ByuL is forced to lift hellion pressure at the 3rd is defended but 4 drones are killed 4th base for ByuL in the bottom left armory for Journey 2nd factory for Journey marine medivac hellion pressure at the 3rd of ByuL 2-2 started for ByuL 4th of ByuL is scouted mutas started for ByuL lings force a lift on Journey's pressure 13:00 129 vs 126 2-2 started for Journey +1 flier attack for ByuL combat shields for Journey drilling claws for Journey 14:00 144 vs 150 ling runby to the original naturla of Journey drop in the main of ByuL drop in the natural of ByuL dies to mutas marine attack at the 4th of ByuL 4th of ByuL is killed mutas clean up the drop in the main +1 vehicle weapons for Journey hellbats started for Journey overlord speed for ByuL 15:00 136 vs 151 4th base restarted for ByuL ByuL moving across the map 2 more rax for Journey mutas kill a full medivac muta harass at the gold is deflected by a repaired turret blue flame research for Journey
16:00 165 vs 189
Hive for ByuL
burrow research for ByuL
thor for Journey
ling bane counter from ByuL at the natural of Journey
marine attack at the 4th of ByuL
Journey's small attack is cleaned up
17:00 173 vs 194
more muta ling bane from ByuL
another medivac killed
macro hatch for ByuL
18:00 176 vs 190
gold base of Journey floating to a new base since it mined out
5th base in the bottom of the map for ByuL
Journey attacking the building 5th of ByuL
19:00 177 vs 200
5th of ByuL is canceled
ByuL is counter attacking
Journey attacking the 4th of ByuL
4th of Journey is being attacked by muta ling bane
OC is killed
3-3 started for ByuL
adrenal glands for ByuL
4th base of ByuL is killed
Journey rallying at his natural ramp
20:00 150 vs 191
ByuL killing the production near the gold base
gold base started for ByuL
Journey pushing the 3rd of ByuL
Journey loses a thor
ByuL sends his mutas home to help defend
Journey sending his next wave of units out
army of Journey is cleaned up at ByuL's 3rd
Journey attacking the gold base of ByuL
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Journey get your ass on IM xD
SKT shunned you, who needs em. We don't have as much money...but...
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On April 11 2014 16:16 Gamegene wrote:
???
Pretty clear that this entire game was prepared by Journey rather than a last minute strategy out of desperation. It's pretty smart when you think about it:
Since Journey was able to secure the Gold as his main base, suddenly taking Base 3 (and 2 along the way) is much easier, especially with the buildings in the middle of the map. If you were to traditionally expand from your main to the gold, you'd have a lot more issues with space control + he's able to take both bases faster, which is why Journey has a supply lead right now.
Artosis dismissing a gold lift, when really it's a well thought out strategy.
Agreed there is a strategic, positional advantage for base progression. Your more-established new main (gold) is now a defensive line to protect your two expansions.
But: you are MUCH closer to your opponent, who gets a mining head start. That makes you substantially more vulnerable in the opening. I think the question is how long you need to survive to make the gold-first worth it? 5 min? 7 min? 10 min?
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United States97276 Posts
On April 11 2014 16:19 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 16:15 Shellshock wrote:On April 11 2014 16:12 Shellshock wrote:On April 11 2014 16:08 Shellshock wrote:On April 11 2014 16:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00 Journey spawns in the top right ByuL spawns in the top left Journey lifts to the gold 1:30 overlord scout sees the gold base taken by Journey rax for Journey 2:00 hatch first for ByuL 2nd rax for Journey pool for ByuL 3:00 bunker started at the bottom of ByuL's natural ramp 3 scvs are pulled with the first marine 2 spines started for ByuL 4:00 2nd bunker at the bottom of the natural ramp CC for Journey lings swung around the lower part of the map marines rallied behind the wall so the lings don't do anything but scout 5:00 gas for ByuL double gas for Journey 3rd bunker started for Journey ByuL moving his creep downt he ramp and repositioning his spines bunkers are being killed instead of salvaged 6:00-7 Journey floating his new CC back to his natural CC started in Journey's main another gas for ByuL ling speed for ByuL ling kills the building scv on the main base CC baneling nest for ByuL 8:00 46 vs 50 double evo for ByuL stim research for Journey Starport building for Journey 3rd base for ByuL 1-1 ling upgrades started for ByuL 9:00 60 vs 66 double ebay for Journey Lair for ByuL medivacs for Journey 1-1 started for Journey 10:00 73 vs 75 2 more rax for Journey "Journey is the Thanksgiving Terran because Dear gave him the series (thanks) and he's the king of floats" - Artosis Journey pressuring on creep with his hellions widow mines for Journey 11:00-12 105 vs 100 spire for ByuL baneling speed for ByuL double drop in the main of ByuL is forced to lift hellion pressure at the 3rd is defended but 4 drones are killed 4th base for ByuL in the bottom left armory for Journey 2nd factory for Journey marine medivac hellion pressure at the 3rd of ByuL 2-2 started for ByuL 4th of ByuL is scouted mutas started for ByuL lings force a lift on Journey's pressure 13:00 129 vs 126 2-2 started for Journey +1 flier attack for ByuL combat shields for Journey drilling claws for Journey 14:00 144 vs 150 ling runby to the original naturla of Journey drop in the main of ByuL drop in the natural of ByuL dies to mutas marine attack at the 4th of ByuL 4th of ByuL is killed mutas clean up the drop in the main +1 vehicle weapons for Journey hellbats started for Journey overlord speed for ByuL 15:00 136 vs 151 4th base restarted for ByuL ByuL moving across the map 2 more rax for Journey mutas kill a full medivac muta harass at the gold is deflected by a repaired turret blue flame research for Journey 16:00 165 vs 189 Hive for ByuL burrow research for ByuL thor for Journey ling bane counter from ByuL at the natural of Journey marine attack at the 4th of ByuL Journey's small attack is cleaned up 17:00 173 vs 194 more muta ling bane from ByuL another medivac killed macro hatch for ByuL 18:00 176 vs 190 gold base of Journey floating to a new base since it mined out 5th base in the bottom of the map for ByuL Journey attacking the building 5th of ByuL 19:00 177 vs 200 5th of ByuL is canceled ByuL is counter attacking Journey attacking the 4th of ByuL 4th of Journey is being attacked by muta ling bane OC is killed 3-3 started for ByuL adrenal glands for ByuL 4th base of ByuL is killed Journey rallying at his natural ramp 20:00 150 vs 191 ByuL killing the production near the gold base gold base started for ByuL Journey pushing the 3rd of ByuL Journey loses a thor ByuL sends his mutas home to help defend Journey sending his next wave of units out army of Journey is cleaned up at ByuL's 3rd Journey attacking the gold base of ByuL
21:00 119 vs 200
4th base restarted for ByuL
gold base is killed
ling counter attack from ByuL at the natural of Journey
bunker in the natural falls
22:00 109 vs 199
ling muta bane kills Journey's main army
lings in the main of Journey
Journey ggs!
ByuL wins 2-0 and advances to Code S!
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Yay Byulllll!
Too bad Journey couldn't make it too ;;
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wolf?... that's how the journey END, not crumbles
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United States23455 Posts
Wooo good job Byul. Going back to the easy Korean region.
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Canada16217 Posts
Hope to see Journey play more games, congrats to ByuL and Solar!
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On April 11 2014 16:20 EthanS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 16:16 Gamegene wrote:
???
Pretty clear that this entire game was prepared by Journey rather than a last minute strategy out of desperation. It's pretty smart when you think about it:
Since Journey was able to secure the Gold as his main base, suddenly taking Base 3 (and 2 along the way) is much easier, especially with the buildings in the middle of the map. If you were to traditionally expand from your main to the gold, you'd have a lot more issues with space control + he's able to take both bases faster, which is why Journey has a supply lead right now.
Artosis dismissing a gold lift, when really it's a well thought out strategy. Agreed there is a strategic, positional advantage for base progression. Your more-established new main (gold) is now a defensive line to protect your two expansions. But: you are MUCH closer to your opponent, who gets a mining head start. That makes you substantially more vulnerable in the opening. I think the question is how long you need to survive to make the gold-first worth it? 5 min? 7 min? 10 min?
This is probably why he went for the double bunker contain at ByuL's ramp. He barely contested the spinecrawler break.
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Oh well, it's about the journey, not the destination.
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On April 11 2014 16:20 Shellshock wrote:
AMERICA HOLDS!
myahhh! But I thought WCS AM Koreans ran from the real competition. Myahh
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