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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 18 2014 11:14 GMT
#461
On March 18 2014 20:14 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:13 liberate71 wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:12 bo1b wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:12 DJHelium wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 liberate71 wrote:
wtf is this pocket man nickname?


I wonder as well.

They're ironically saying that maru is really tall


Is it another one of Wolf's "they call him pocket man" forced references?

No, the gg girls had it on there signs, it's pretty clear they saying his short, I shouldn't use sarcasm on the internet


Well yeh.. he's short.. but pocket man?
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
March 18 2014 11:14 GMT
#462
On March 18 2014 20:11 bo1b wrote:
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On March 18 2014 20:11 opterown wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...

a few nice mine shots did seal it for him

The game was pretty over by the time that happened


the game was over the moment creator put down the 2 forges -.-
he lost on the exact same map some days ago against bbyong trying to play a macro game aswell.
the only difference was, that bbyong isn't maru, so the game lasted a bit longer

Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 11:15:59
March 18 2014 11:15 GMT
#463
On March 18 2014 20:14 opterown wrote:
what does the SPL MVP leaderboard look like now?


Maru should be ahead of TY by two wins. Ahead of Creator (RorO too?) by 3.

Oh and I think FlaSh is on 9 wins too?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 18 2014 11:15 GMT
#464
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.

well at the very end when creator was pushing out with 2-2 chargelots and a colossus against 1-0 bio, he kinda crushed maru's army til walking into the mine though, it could have been closer
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 18 2014 11:15 GMT
#465
On March 18 2014 20:14 berndniph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:11 bo1b wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:11 opterown wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...

a few nice mine shots did seal it for him

The game was pretty over by the time that happened


the game was over the moment creator put down the 2 forges -.-
he lost on the exact same map some days ago against bbyong trying to play a macro game aswell.
the only difference was, that bbyong isn't maru, so the game lasted a bit longer



To be fair, Maru was going for a macro game too... Creator just decided to die to early pressure.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 18 2014 11:15 GMT
#466
On March 18 2014 20:12 Frex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .


So the weakness of protoss is that they tend to throw colossi away. I honestly wonder how the game would have looked if Creator had actually kept the first two colossi save.


I think the army trades evenly and Creator probably ahead due to upgrades. Maru drops to buy time for Vikings and creator gets Templar tech, then Maru gets ghosts and a few mines and it comes down to the big battle between mines, ghosts, storm.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
March 18 2014 11:16 GMT
#467
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
March 18 2014 11:16 GMT
#468
Guess who is the other guy with the nickname pocket man...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Andersen_(child_molester)
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 18 2014 11:16 GMT
#469
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here


Creator had 1 colossus when the fight at the watchtower happened. Not sure if he even had range. 1 colossus counter attack on cross spawn Frost is not scary at all.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 18 2014 11:18 GMT
#470
On March 18 2014 20:16 Weavel wrote:
Guess who is the other guy with the nickname pocket man...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Andersen_(child_molester)

Wow child molester :/
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 18 2014 11:18 GMT
#471
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here


Nah, creator lost multiple colossi. No way Terrans dies after sniping 2nd and 3rd goes down as well as 2 colo. Even with upgrade advantage, you still need to colo DPS.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 18 2014 11:20 GMT
#472
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 18 2014 11:20 GMT
#473
On March 18 2014 20:18 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:16 Weavel wrote:
Guess who is the other guy with the nickname pocket man...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Andersen_(child_molester)

Wow child molester :/


Wolf getting his awkwardness to the next level without even knowing it.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
March 18 2014 11:21 GMT
#474
On March 18 2014 20:20 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...


Oh if he is saying that then I agree. The patch didn't matter in this game at all. The mines did however
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
March 18 2014 11:26 GMT
#475
I was rooting for Prime, but I can't complain about that. Some of the sickest shit I've ever seen from Maru.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
March 18 2014 11:28 GMT
#476
On March 18 2014 20:20 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...

THat is what I meant, Maru would have won the game due to the micro madness and creator overly greedy. The mines were unncesary buffed imho, it makes Zealots that cost 100minerals look like individual zerlings...
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
March 18 2014 11:46 GMT
#477
On March 18 2014 20:28 DreamOen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:20 vthree wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...

THat is what I meant, Maru would have won the game due to the micro madness and creator overly greedy. The mines were unncesary buffed imho, it makes Zealots that cost 100minerals look like individual zerlings...


dont crush our TvP hopes, we've been through too much
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
March 18 2014 11:53 GMT
#478
On March 18 2014 20:28 DreamOen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:20 vthree wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...

THat is what I meant, Maru would have won the game due to the micro madness and creator overly greedy. The mines were unncesary buffed imho, it makes Zealots that cost 100minerals look like individual zerlings...


The mine buff is to counter Templar openings that rely heavily on mass Zealots with upgrades.

Against Collosus play with small Zealot numbers the Mines are completely unnecessary, against huge Zealot/Archon numbers is what they are intended to be used for.

See Dear vs Maru. That series shows just what the devs had in mind for them. It helps a lot at countering the sheer cost efficiency of Templar midgame builds.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
March 18 2014 11:55 GMT
#479
On March 18 2014 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:28 DreamOen wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:20 vthree wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...

THat is what I meant, Maru would have won the game due to the micro madness and creator overly greedy. The mines were unncesary buffed imho, it makes Zealots that cost 100minerals look like individual zerlings...


The mine buff is to counter Templar openings that rely heavily on mass Zealots with upgrades.

Against Collosus play with small Zealot numbers the Mines are completely unnecessary, against huge Zealot/Archon numbers is what they are intended to be used for.

See Dear vs Maru. That series shows just what the devs had in mind for them. It helps a lot at countering the sheer cost efficiency of Templar midgame builds.


Yeah but the thing is there are no options anymore for protoss, just one route tosses have to go for. robo -> colossi.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 11:58:54
March 18 2014 11:58 GMT
#480
On March 18 2014 20:55 DreamOen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 20:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:28 DreamOen wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:20 vthree wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:16 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:14 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:13 sharkie wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:10 TheDwf wrote:
On March 18 2014 20:09 DreamOen wrote:
Not sure if the widow mine buff was necessary, but GREAT game sense by maru knowing where the weakness of the race is and abussing it .

What did the game even have to do with Mines...


Well the mines made it much easier in the end.
Do you know how many games I've seen where terrans snipe the 2nd and 3rd of protoss and just die to the counter all in?

Mines definitely helped Maru here

I swear I must have seen another game.


If you think the mines didn't play a part then yes you did.


I think he is saying Maru was going to win the game even if they were prebuff mines...

THat is what I meant, Maru would have won the game due to the micro madness and creator overly greedy. The mines were unncesary buffed imho, it makes Zealots that cost 100minerals look like individual zerlings...


The mine buff is to counter Templar openings that rely heavily on mass Zealots with upgrades.

Against Collosus play with small Zealot numbers the Mines are completely unnecessary, against huge Zealot/Archon numbers is what they are intended to be used for.

See Dear vs Maru. That series shows just what the devs had in mind for them. It helps a lot at countering the sheer cost efficiency of Templar midgame builds.


Yeah but the thing is there are no options anymore for protoss, just one route tosses have to go for. robo -> colossi.


That hasn't been the case from what I've been seeing. Still seeing plenty of High Templar usage before Collosus tech, especially with how common Blink openings are Templar are the logical transition path if the all in fails or does damage enough to put you ahead.

And plus it isn't as though the Mines make Zealot/Archon play COMPLETELY unusable, it just helps the Bio force deal with it until Ghosts are able to be fielded.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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