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[SPL] Jin Air vs Prime Round 2 2014 - Page 25

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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
March 18 2014 12:40 GMT
#481
Nooooo. Maru BETRAYAL! Traitor! Burrrrn him!
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 18 2014 12:42 GMT
#482
Maru traitor!
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 12:50:49
March 18 2014 12:49 GMT
#483
Terran looks very strong vs Protoss
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States446 Posts
March 18 2014 12:52 GMT
#484
All Jin Air needs is 1 player other than Maru to win and he will win the ace match at least against the lesser teams. Think it was a mistake for them to send him out in their last match where they ended up getting 3-0'd
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
March 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#485
On March 18 2014 21:52 Moonerz wrote:
All Jin Air needs is 1 player other than Maru to win and he will win the ace match at least against the lesser teams. Think it was a mistake for them to send him out in their last match where they ended up getting 3-0'd

I heard that they have a guy who won $100,000 twice.
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
March 18 2014 14:38 GMT
#486
On March 18 2014 21:52 Moonerz wrote:
All Jin Air needs is 1 player other than Maru to win and he will win the ace match at least against the lesser teams. Think it was a mistake for them to send him out in their last match where they ended up getting 3-0'd


Well normally they'd have sOs and Rogue has been performing well for them recently too but they were both in Poland for IEM. If there's one thing Jin Air lacks it's depth. They have the smallest roster for PL and really out of that roster of 7 they have 3 solid players, but seeing as this is their first PL season as Jin Air rather than Team 8, they had less renown and probably money compared to the other teams. Heck they were probably quite lucky to even pick up sOs and Maru in Pre-season.

I'll agree with you on sending Maru out last against MVP, I'd have sent him out as a surefire lead just because he was the best on that line-up. A win from Maru could've been a good morale booster for guys like Terminator who is capable of winning matches
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
March 18 2014 15:09 GMT
#487
Prime OWNED this match from both sides of the teams!
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
March 18 2014 15:21 GMT
#488
Prime fans pining for players that have moved on is pretty hilarious.

At least you still have Choya.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 18 2014 15:53 GMT
#489
Cure please
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 18 2014 15:56 GMT
#490
If Jin Air wins this round, hopefully we can finally get a Jin Air icon. :p
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2014 15:58 GMT
#491
On March 19 2014 00:21 kmh wrote:
Prime fans pining for players that have moved on is pretty hilarious.

At least you still have Choya.

and Barbie, she does her job every week, you can't say the same for many others (i look at you sktt1!)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Moonerz
Profile Joined March 2014
United States446 Posts
March 18 2014 16:09 GMT
#492
On March 18 2014 23:37 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 21:52 Moonerz wrote:
All Jin Air needs is 1 player other than Maru to win and he will win the ace match at least against the lesser teams. Think it was a mistake for them to send him out in their last match where they ended up getting 3-0'd

I heard that they have a guy who won $100,000 twice.


I was talking specifically about these matches (I probably should have been more specific) where they will not have sOs or Rogue. Really need to have Maru sent out early to get a win and confidence so the B teamers can pull through and win 1 of 3 matches.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
March 18 2014 16:17 GMT
#493
On March 18 2014 18:39 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 18:37 Rollora wrote:
can we include the Casters Polls into the OP? Sometimes this could be interesting

Do you mean there predictions for who is going to win? I'm not sure if we have access to that.

hmm yeah meant that.
Well it is on the screen, maybe somebody watches it from time to time?


I just know some of them
Maru Kassia 5-0
Terminator DeParture 5-0
Maru-Creator 5-0

forgot or didn't see the others
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 18 2014 16:19 GMT
#494
On March 19 2014 01:17 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 18:39 bo1b wrote:
On March 18 2014 18:37 Rollora wrote:
can we include the Casters Polls into the OP? Sometimes this could be interesting

Do you mean there predictions for who is going to win? I'm not sure if we have access to that.

hmm yeah meant that.
Well it is on the screen, maybe somebody watches it from time to time?


I just know some of them
Maru Kassia 5-0
Terminator DeParture 5-0
Maru-Creator 5-0

forgot or didn't see the others

I agree, I think that would be a really fun thing to add to the OP. It's kind of interesting/amusing, and shouldn't be too much extra work.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 18 2014 16:30 GMT
#495
On March 19 2014 01:19 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 01:17 Rollora wrote:
On March 18 2014 18:39 bo1b wrote:
On March 18 2014 18:37 Rollora wrote:
can we include the Casters Polls into the OP? Sometimes this could be interesting

Do you mean there predictions for who is going to win? I'm not sure if we have access to that.

hmm yeah meant that.
Well it is on the screen, maybe somebody watches it from time to time?


I just know some of them
Maru Kassia 5-0
Terminator DeParture 5-0
Maru-Creator 5-0

forgot or didn't see the others

I agree, I think that would be a really fun thing to add to the OP. It's kind of interesting/amusing, and shouldn't be too much extra work.

The problem is you would have to do them retroactively, by which time it has largely lost any real impact, and it clutters up the op.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 18 2014 17:34 GMT
#496
Feels like the original KTFlaSh dilemma with respect to the players and not the team's position financially.
kiss kiss fall in love
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 17:42:16
March 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#497
On March 18 2014 19:52 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 19:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 18 2014 19:47 bo1b wrote:
Such potential for this match, it uses the most balanced map (afaik) in proleague with a 55% winrate (lmao that balance) pvt.

Hopefully it isn't another blink all in


Frost and Habitation Station are the only maps I actually want them to keep when this season is over.

The others can all go as far as I'm concerned.

Habitation station needs to go, its ludicrously strong with certain strats vs zerg and terran for protoss.

Honestly expecting another teoita article on pvt strategies involving proxy oracle into gold natural



Yeah, Poor Habitation Station being just so damn imbalanced...

TLPD Stats:

TvZ: 46% Terran Wins 29 - Zerg Wins 34

ZvP: 51.1% Zerg Wins 47 - Protoss Wins 45

PvT: 54.9% Protoss Wins - 39 Terran Wins 32


Guys over at sc2replaystats gave me these numbers, which involves all types of games from bronze - GM.

TvZ 47.05% Terran Wins 1194 - Protoss Wins 1344 - Avg Game Length 18:30

ZvP 53.59% Zerg Wins 1370 - Protoss Wins 1186 - Avg Game Length 16:20

PvT 54.21% Protoss wins 1093 - Terran Wins 923 - Avg Game Length 16:48

I'm all for changing up the map pool but to complain about Hab Stat saying Protoss has so many "ludicrously" strong builds when overall Zerg has a higher win ratio and terran is only 4-5% behind is ridiculous. Heck, these stats are before the MSC / Widowmine changes so I'd expect the PvT matchup to be even closer now.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
March 18 2014 18:43 GMT
#498
LOL trying to be a smart ass and keep predicting wrong during engagements and then blame Maru for being sloppy. So hilarious. As always.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 19:12:47
March 18 2014 18:59 GMT
#499
On March 19 2014 02:41 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 19:52 bo1b wrote:
On March 18 2014 19:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 18 2014 19:47 bo1b wrote:
Such potential for this match, it uses the most balanced map (afaik) in proleague with a 55% winrate (lmao that balance) pvt.

Hopefully it isn't another blink all in


Frost and Habitation Station are the only maps I actually want them to keep when this season is over.

The others can all go as far as I'm concerned.

Habitation station needs to go, its ludicrously strong with certain strats vs zerg and terran for protoss.

Honestly expecting another teoita article on pvt strategies involving proxy oracle into gold natural



Yeah, Poor Habitation Station being just so damn imbalanced...

TLPD Stats:

TvZ: 46% Terran Wins 29 - Zerg Wins 34

ZvP: 51.1% Zerg Wins 47 - Protoss Wins 45

PvT: 54.9% Protoss Wins - 39 Terran Wins 32


Guys over at sc2replaystats gave me these numbers, which involves all types of games from bronze - GM.

TvZ 47.05% Terran Wins 1194 - Protoss Wins 1344 - Avg Game Length 18:30

ZvP 53.59% Zerg Wins 1370 - Protoss Wins 1186 - Avg Game Length 16:20

PvT 54.21% Protoss wins 1093 - Terran Wins 923 - Avg Game Length 16:48

I'm all for changing up the map pool but to complain about Hab Stat saying Protoss has so many "ludicrously" strong builds when overall Zerg has a higher win ratio and terran is only 4-5% behind is ridiculous. Heck, these stats are before the MSC / Widowmine changes so I'd expect the PvT matchup to be even closer now.

That's great, the stats show that it's probably the most balanced map in proleague, but that doesn't mean that certain strats on this map aren't stupid, or that people aren't taking advantage of them. ZvP on this map is basically: Protoss expands to the nat: expand to third and collosus push OR take the gold as nat and 2 base immortal all in on steroids, zerg then responds by having the ultimate mid game swarmhost map, if neither of them successfully occur a counter push ends the game, or it stabilises into a 45min+ sh vs tempest game. Why on earth should that be the sort of map you want? There are maps with stats that are far worse and yet I think this is the second worse map in the proleague pool before yeonsu.

Idk why I responded to you tbh, I don't think you'll agree with me, and I'm not changing my mind any time soon.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 18 2014 20:42 GMT
#500
On March 19 2014 00:21 kmh wrote:
Prime fans pining for players that have moved on is pretty hilarious.

At least you still have Choya.

gee i hear it's impossible to like players as well as teams don't be a joke
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