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aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:03:31
March 15 2014 22:03 GMT
#6701
Anyway, it's been an enjoyable tournament thus far. And, with some luck, we may get some good PvP tomorrow too. I'll be working so won't be able to watch it. But, will catch up on the vods later. Right, time to shower and then ladder.

GLHF all.
KT best KT ~ 2014
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 15 2014 22:03 GMT
#6702
On March 16 2014 07:01 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:57 Zambrah wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:


No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero


I find this twitter post funny due to the fact that HerO 3-0ed Innovation in a pretty abusive fashion that included Blink a little while ago, lol. ;>

He did say he does use the build ;D
Not like back in the day when Mvp was nicknamed the "Conscience Terran" for acknowledging the strength of 1-1-1 and promising not to use it anymore. Well, he actually used it plenty afterwards ;D

Against parting on his GSL protoss killing rampage. Good times!
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
March 15 2014 22:03 GMT
#6703
Oh man, this is honestly one of the best starcraft I've watched in a long time, possibly ever.
Even though it's a PvP finals, the players are so good it's gonna be so crazy.
+ Show Spoiler +
And herO will take 3 straights IEMs
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
March 15 2014 22:04 GMT
#6704
On March 16 2014 07:00 aZealot wrote:
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On March 16 2014 06:58 Absentia wrote:
Moving Time Warp to the Twilight Council makes no sense with regards the internal logic of the game's design. The twilight council is concerned with upgrading gateway tech tree/units. I get that it would nerf blink all ins, but it seems like an awkward design decision. Cybernetics core would make more sense from a design perspective.


Yeah, I've posted about this on Bnet before and on the previous balance map Bnet thread. I may try again when the next patch comes out and hopefully it gets some attention. If anything, I think the MSC has too much utility with three spells right off the bat. Moving TW to Cybercore and making it a cheap and short upgrade would also add an element of tech choice to P.

Just post it on Reddit after a game like this, you will receive enough upvotes (because even hardcore protoss fans like me think it is a good idea) and that's when they notice what 'community would like to do'. Just like the MCore range change...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:04:36
March 15 2014 22:04 GMT
#6705
The funny thing is, with this Protoss dominance, the next patch will probably hit Protoss so hard that almost all their current builds will not be viable anymore.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 15 2014 22:04 GMT
#6706
On March 16 2014 06:59 ESTeGo wrote:
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On March 16 2014 06:53 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:48 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:47 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

Yes. Hardcore Protoss players may feel otherwise, but the hate vs Terran and Zerg was just as bad. Hell even a TL admin was bitching about Zerg on twitter at the time of BL/Infestor.

I don't think it was as bad against terran, but it lasted longer. It was just kinda "marines imba". I think it was just as bad for zerg.

BL/Infestor definitely got the most hate. Terran hate seemed to come and go. Most of it came during the open seasons of WOL with SCV pulls. I think for the most part, the hate didn't boil over because most of the OP stuff got nerfed relatively quickly (rightly so). I mean, can you imagine the backlash if 5 rax reapers won 4 straight premiere tournaments?


Winfestors, GGlords, the marine anecdote (2 marines walk into a bar.. no counter), patchzergs and so on.. These things all show how hostile people were. But now it's about the maps not the units. And as always most people watching don't really get what is going on and go with the flow and bash races when they lose on ladder, even though it's just prolly cause they are bad(anything under GM and high Master)

I am mostly a viewer now and therefore bad, so I'll just refer to TheDwf's post here:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443565-mcs-thoughts-on-current-balance-whining#10
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 15 2014 22:04 GMT
#6707
I'm not really one to talk about BW, but if you want to watch Starcraft greatness, go checkout SSL grand finals, btw ;D
mqto
Profile Joined August 2011
54 Posts
March 15 2014 22:05 GMT
#6708
On March 16 2014 07:04 vthree wrote:
The funny thing is, with this Protoss dominance, the next patch will probably hit Protoss so hard that almost all their current builds will not be viable anymore.

Yeah, time warp radius will be reduced by 5% and all the protoss players are yelling how huge nerf it is.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 15 2014 22:06 GMT
#6709
Smiling blinker vs stone-faced blinker. A battle of the ages.

A pity it ended so weakly between taeja and sOs, it's been a great tournament.

Oh, and zerg continues to struggle!
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
March 15 2014 22:06 GMT
#6710
Maybe e-mailing the sponsors about how they shouldn't sponsor such a disgusting game will get them to pull out and cause david kim to make sc2 fun to watch for a change? Then maybe we can email the sponsors for GRRM and get him to Write Half Life 3
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 15 2014 22:07 GMT
#6711
On March 16 2014 07:06 tshi wrote:
Maybe e-mailing the sponsors about how they shouldn't sponsor such a disgusting game will get them to pull out and cause david kim to make sc2 fun to watch for a change? Then maybe we can email the sponsors for GRRM and get him to Write Half Life 3

I wish I could say this was the worst idea I have ever heard. Unfortunately not
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 15 2014 22:07 GMT
#6712
On March 16 2014 07:05 mqto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:04 vthree wrote:
The funny thing is, with this Protoss dominance, the next patch will probably hit Protoss so hard that almost all their current builds will not be viable anymore.

Yeah, time warp radius will be reduced by 5% and all the protoss players are yelling how huge nerf it is.

Don't forget man. The current mothership core is blind.
Still though, people forget that actually blind people are dangerous as fuck.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
March 15 2014 22:07 GMT
#6713
On March 16 2014 07:01 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:51 Ammanas wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.

It was never this bad because of 2 things:
a) TL mods were better at banning people
b) There are almost more terran players than P and Z combined on TL (OK, not really, but there is quite a substantial amount more terrans than other races)


That's a pretty questionable statement. Protoss is the most played (and Terran the least) on both Battle.net and professionally (gaps are pretty small, but they're still there).

Well I guess it could be, but that's coming off of what i see in LRs (the race icons near the posters) as well as FPL (when you submit your team, you are automatically assigned to a group of either 'protoss players', 'terran players' or 'zerg players'. Currently there are 1749T, 711P and 503Z).

how many people would actually change their icons to their race? just look how much location trolling is going on. vanuatu. afghanistan. etc.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
March 15 2014 22:07 GMT
#6714
Yes Timewarp is quite important in pvp, but it's for the lategame collosi mostly, so making cheap upgrade in templar archives wouldn't be a problem imo. Outside of pvp it's mostly useful in blink all-ins and then immortal sentry all-ins.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 15 2014 22:07 GMT
#6715
On March 16 2014 07:04 vthree wrote:
The funny thing is, with this Protoss dominance, the next patch will probably hit Protoss so hard that almost all their current builds will not be viable anymore.


It's not just about dominance. sOs and herO made it pretty clear that they think blink all in would give them wins and they do it almost every map and it is just wrong.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:10:07
March 15 2014 22:08 GMT
#6716
And Taeja tweets "I will retire soon." C'mon man keep your head up! I guess it's not unexpected. He was thinking about retiring for some time now and was convinced by friends and family to keep playing. but if you are not playing for yourself you are not playing with passion
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
March 15 2014 22:08 GMT
#6717
Taeja just announced he will retire soon on twitter.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:09:07
March 15 2014 22:08 GMT
#6718
On March 16 2014 06:50 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_HerO/status/444951502017560576

No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero

Lol, with the way he won Bogus at IEM Cologne, he should really not talk about this.


Why not? He goes on to say that protoss does it to win. He wants to win too. Why the hell would he not use blink? And why the hell does that make it impossible for him to state his opinion?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 15 2014 22:08 GMT
#6719
On March 16 2014 07:06 tshi wrote:
Maybe e-mailing the sponsors about how they shouldn't sponsor such a disgusting game will get them to pull out and cause david kim to make sc2 fun to watch for a change? Then maybe we can email the sponsors for GRRM and get him to Write Half Life 3


No!

I want Half Life 3 sometime this decade
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 15 2014 22:09 GMT
#6720
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