• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:46
CEST 03:46
KST 10:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.161Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202623Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BSL23 Confirmations Starts on New BSL Portal
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [ASL22] Semifinal B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11513 users

[IEM] Ro8 + Ro4 World Championships 2014 - Page 338

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 336 337 338 339 340 346 Next
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 15 2014 22:13 GMT
#6741
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain is retired =(.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
March 15 2014 22:13 GMT
#6742
On March 16 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain?!?

back from the grave.
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:14:37
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6743
On March 16 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain?!?

Should've added "non-retired"

I intentionally chose TSL and Fnatic becasue TSL and EG everyone would've said Puma lol I forgot about Rain :/
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6744
On March 16 2014 07:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Hopefully he's just depressed about the loss and is just venting, but idk.

He seems less enthusiastic about the game these days, and then there's the thing with his wrists


You can only micro vs banelings + storms for so long. Mvp has given up on that completely by going mech vs Zerg + scv pull vs protoss.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6745
On March 16 2014 07:09 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:09 NovaMB wrote:


Wonder if he would've tweeted that if it wasn't 100k Winner takes all, cause losing the semis of one of the biggest tournaments ever wouldn't have been so bad, especially with a good buffer that ro4 would give in terms of prize money.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6746
On March 16 2014 07:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain?!?

Should've added "non-retired"

Rain that plays protoss isn't the same guy
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6747
On March 16 2014 07:09 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:09 NovaMB wrote:
https://twitter.com/LiquidTaeJa/statuses/444958068800225281


His wrist did seem to be acting up again though.. Good decision from him. He's still young, enough time to get a degree and a real job.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6748
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.


Rain? He was streaming Hots a while a go
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:17:11
March 15 2014 22:14 GMT
#6749
I didn't follow SC2, but I guess blink all-ins are similar to BW hydra busts in nature, but can't be fixed by map tweakings.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 22:15 GMT
#6750
Not Rain

I hate you all.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 15 2014 22:15 GMT
#6751
On March 16 2014 07:14 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain?!?

Should've added "non-retired"

I intentionally chose TSL and Fnatic becasue TSL and EG everyone would've said Puma lol I forgot about Rain :/


aLive?
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 15 2014 22:15 GMT
#6752
On March 16 2014 07:09 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:50 TheDwf wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:


No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero

Lol, with the way he won Bogus at IEM Cologne, he should really not talk about this.


Why not? He goes on to say that protoss does it to win. He wants to win too. Why the hell would he not use blink?

He can use Blink 24/7 if he fancies. I just don't want to read a hypocritical tweet about that afterwards.

how is it hypocritical? he didn't tell other people not to use it. being hypocritical is failing to practice what you preach. he's only preaching that he thinks blink is too strong and not fun to watch, which is an opinion he can have whether he uses it or not (using it is part of his job)
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 22:15:51
March 15 2014 22:15 GMT
#6753
https://twitter.com/LiquidTaeJa/status/444958068800225281
Towelie.635
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 22:16 GMT
#6754
On March 16 2014 07:15 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain?!?

Should've added "non-retired"

I intentionally chose TSL and Fnatic becasue TSL and EG everyone would've said Puma lol I forgot about Rain :/


aLive?

GOT 'EM
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 15 2014 22:16 GMT
#6755
On March 16 2014 07:15 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:14 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:13 NovaMB wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

Rain?!?

Should've added "non-retired"

I intentionally chose TSL and Fnatic becasue TSL and EG everyone would've said Puma lol I forgot about Rain :/


aLive?

Finally someone inadvertently said what he wanted them to! haha
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 15 2014 22:16 GMT
#6756
On March 16 2014 07:09 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:50 TheDwf wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_HerO/status/444951502017560576

No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero

Lol, with the way he won Bogus at IEM Cologne, he should really not talk about this.


Why not? He goes on to say that protoss does it to win. He wants to win too. Why the hell would he not use blink?

He can use Blink 24/7 if he fancies. I just don't want to read a hypocritical tweet about that afterwards.


Hypocrisy = stating your opinion. I see.

So when he played in WCS America and said "from a viewer's perspective, having so many Koreans in WCS America may be boring." was that hypocritical too in your opinion then? He's being honest. But he's also a professional player and he'll do everything it takes to win - as would you. Stating that what you use yourself is too strong... is hypocritical?

We've got different opinions on that one for sure.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
March 15 2014 22:17 GMT
#6757
i hope taeja retires, would be good for his physical and mental health even though i'd miss watching him play. ain't gonna watch tomorrow, PvP is alright and i'm sure they'll put on a good show but there's just been too much toss this year
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
March 15 2014 22:17 GMT
#6758
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 16 2014 06:42 WTCO wrote:
Not trying to cause any issues here, legitimately wondering why Terran players don't get Stim earlier? Tech Lab and then a 100/100 upgrade doesn't seem very expensive?

The reason is the same as why you don't see protoss players build a forge before a gateway in TvP. having an upgrade faster is useless if you don't have enough unit to defend you during the time your getting it and your production takes a big enough hit that you wont have enough units to use it effectively when you get it.

Cutting a reactor for tech lab means Terran is halving their early game marine production, and their are builds that if they don't have enough marines to hold they will straight up die to, such as oracles which takes at least 6 reins. since t already build a reaper which takes almost as long as two marines to make and then get an expansion t just does not have the rein count or money to buy production to adjust their marine count so they have to reactor.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 15 2014 22:17 GMT
#6759
On March 16 2014 07:11 Darkhorse wrote:
Maybe Liquid could pick up another Korean terran in his place. Maybe one who used to be on both TSL and Fnatic.

You mean on both TSL and Prime.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
March 15 2014 22:18 GMT
#6760
On March 16 2014 07:13 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.


Yes, it was definitely this bad with Zerg. Not so much Terran, because Terran's dominance was due to the really high skill ceiling (so we saw some awesome plays, and TvT is undoubtedly the best mirror), but people were fucking PISSED in the days of Z dominance.


There was no high skill ceiling when people were complaining about 1/1/1, scv all-ins, 2-rax, pre-nerf emp, and BF hellions.

No but abusive terran strategies got nerfed to oblivion usually within a very acceptable timeframe. Nowadays it takes months for the balance team to admit that there is a problem and even if they do, they are afraid of actually taking drastic action.

I don't know for how long you've been following SC2, but below are a few of the things Terran had to contend with within the first few months of WoL:
-Siege tank damage going from 60 to 50, to 35+15 to armored.
-Reapers gone from overpowered unit to least useful unit in the game
-Bunker build time increased a couple of times
-Reactor build time practically doubled, cost increased
-Stim research time increased by a lot
-Concussive missiles had to be researched
-Increased barrack build time


And yet Terran still dominated for at least a full year. You act like these things were not necessary.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Prev 1 336 337 338 339 340 346 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
09:30
#103
PiGStarcraft532
CranKy Ducklings83
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft532
Reynor 160
ViBE152
RuFF_SC2 151
ProTech142
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2550
GuemChi 1555
NaDa 32
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1155
taco 332
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe158
Other Games
summit1g7867
Day[9].tv588
JimRising 475
C9.Mang0274
Livibee167
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick913
BasetradeTV179
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP31
• davetesta8
• Letter148
• EnkiAlexander 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1065
Other Games
• imaqtpie876
• Day9tv588
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
9h 14m
The PondCast
1d 8h
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-13
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.