EPTOn March 05 2014 19:56 Arceus wrote:
i'd say he and herO are top2.
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juvenal
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i'd say he and herO are top2. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On March 05 2014 19:55 Qwerty85 wrote: Again, entertaining for you. Opinions are not facts. Exactly. For instance afaic, I prefer sOs play style to the old mech v mech TvT that people here usually worship. The fact is that his strats are at least quite original. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On March 05 2014 19:54 Qwerty85 wrote: That is a matter of opinion. I don't see anything entertaining in canon rushing. And I see everything entertaining in cannon rushing. I even love when protosses cannon rush me! | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 05 2014 19:58 diverzee wrote: Although, if these protoss players do their best to end the game as early as possible, and such is not without risk, it probably suggests that they fear mid and late game zerg. It's just fucking strategy. You really think that sOs/PartinG or other "abusive toss" like LR love to put it in can't play macro game against Life/Soulkey or other Zerg? It's called PRE-PA-RA-TION. sOs was always genius of preparation. Nothing weird that he did just smashed 4-0. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18672 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:00 Ramiz1989 wrote: Oh please, you can't really compare BW to SC2, BW didn't have things that you couldn't do anything about(Force Fields), or if it had, they were higher in the tech and were quite hard to use because of limited selection, macro, no smart-casting and how BW worked in general. You couldnt do much against storms. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
balance whine! keep going guys it doesn't make you look moronic at all | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Found a player who cant face aggressive strats. | ||
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
On March 05 2014 19:58 RaFox17 wrote: Someone could also say that protoss has too many ways to open against T and Z and those aggressive openings also drastically limits what Z and T can do and almost always end up with toss being ahead. This. You play safe? You're far behind. You play more aggressive? You get "punished". You try a greedy approach? You get "punished" too. | ||
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izmatic
United States104 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:01 Shinta) wrote: And I see everything entertaining in cannon rushing. I even love when protosses cannon rush me! I think I know a therapist who specializes in that... | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
Except like micro, right!? I wasn't so good at BW, but I loved microing against Storms, something you CAN'T do against Force Fields... | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
On March 05 2014 19:57 VisonKai wrote: Sure, and I have a friend that thinks TvZ is the worst matchup in the game. Doesn't mean that people are going to stop saying TvZ is the most entertaining. Well interesting that you bring that up. Because the way the "most interesting matchup" (TvZ) usually unfolds is through long macro games. Usually the player with better macro and mechanics wins. Other than that it is pretty straight forward and based mostly on skill, not sucker punch moves. Compare it to PvZ and PvT where cheese is much more common. So if majority prefers games like TvZ (and based on the best games of 2013 thread, they do) I don't understand how they could enjoy sOs type of PvZ as well at the same time.Or how could they enjoy the way HerO played against Innovation at IEM. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
On March 05 2014 19:58 RaFox17 wrote: Someone could also say that protoss has too many ways to open against T and Z and those aggressive openings also drastically limits what Z and T can do and almost always end up with toss being ahead. Ridiculous how warped your perspective on this game is. | ||
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:01 Furikawari wrote: This. You play safe? You're far behind. You play more aggressive? You get "punished". You try a greedy approach? You get "punished" too. The safety against lots of early aggression gives Protoss a lot of options early game. It used to be that Protoss had to play safe just to stay alive, but now it's the opponent that's constrained by what Protoss can throw at them. | ||
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:03 Scarecrow wrote: Ridiculous how warped your perspective on this game is. Please educate me. | ||
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VisonKai
United States2203 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:02 Qwerty85 wrote: Well interesting that you bring that up. Because the way the "most interesting matchup" (TvZ) usually unfolds is through long macro games. Usually the player with better macro and mechanics wins. Other than that it is pretty straight forward and based mostly on skill, not sucker punch moves. Compare it to PvZ and PvT where cheese is much more common. So if majority prefers games like TvZ (and based on the best games of 2013 thread, they do) I don't understand how they could enjoy sOs type of PvZ as well at the same time.Or how could they enjoy the way HerO played against Innovation at IEM. TvZ is popular because it's tense the whole game and back and forth. sOs PvZ is very similar, everything balances on a hair's edge when he's cheesing you because if you screw up once you KNOW sOs is going to punish it. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:01 Furikawari wrote: This. You play safe? You're far behind. You play more aggressive? You get "punished". You try a greedy approach? You get "punished" too. Typical frenchman. Loves a good wine. | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On March 05 2014 20:04 VisonKai wrote: TvZ is popular because it's tense the whole game and back and forth. sOs PvZ is very similar, everything balances on a hair's edge when he's cheesing you because if you screw up once you KNOW sOs is going to punish it. The problem many people have is that toss can kill you with a cheese but usually if you hold it you can´t punish toss after it. | ||
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