On March 05 2014 04:47 Zenbrez wrote: Wait, Hasu won game 1? He lost his entire army and was on 1 base. I swear I saw him leave and the game end, but I guess I just left instead? How did he win?
He started to do what he does best and just kept defending, while Firecake stayed on roach/hydra and tried to kill him on 3 bases. By the time he got a 4th Hasu go Colossi out, then Firecake got Vipers and had the game won but didn't kill the third after killing the colossi, so Hasu go HTs out too and killed Firecake's 4th with dts and it was over from there. Nice defense with blinks and feedbacks from Hasu, but Firecake kinda threw the game.
On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
Nothing. Much better to just be Soulkey and win out right against 2 base all ins.
Yeonsu is just terrible map for ZvP. You dont have to be an expert to realize that. But afaik, WCS EU and AM have vetos so I am not sure why zergs dont veto that map...
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On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
Nothing. Much better to just be Soulkey and win out right against 2 base all ins.
i always think that skt send Soulkey on Yeonsu just so he can stop soul trains
On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
The 2-2 lings and infestors which will shit all over the gateway/immortal army. It's perfecty ok for zerg to be a little behind protoss with your third when you go this build because your tech and upgrades are miles ahead. I'm still chuckling at some game where Scarlett did this and ended up fighting 0-0 stalkers with 2-2 adrenal lings, it was kind of funny.
But as said, the map may have been a big factor in this as well.
On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
Nothing. Much better to just be Soulkey and win out right against 2 base all ins.
i always think that skt send Soulkey on Yeonsu just so he can stop soul trains
Well, SKT can send anyone to stop anything on any map .
On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
Nothing. Much better to just be Soulkey and win out right against 2 base all ins.
i always think that skt send Soulkey on Yeonsu just so he can stop soul trains
Well, SKT can send anyone to stop anything on any map .
On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
Nothing. Much better to just be Soulkey and win out right against 2 base all ins.
i always think that skt send Soulkey on Yeonsu just so he can stop soul trains
Well, SKT can send anyone to stop anything on any map .
On March 05 2014 04:48 jakethesnake wrote: Firecake seemed to have an unlimited supply of spine crawlers, but only about 6 roaches... Very strange way to attempt to hold that.
The correct way is to sac the third, stack spines at the natural, go mass lings with 2x evo and spam queens. It still probably would not have been enough consider the map is a pile of steaming shit, but that is the generally accepted response for zerg to 2base all ins.
But then what prevents Protoss from just containing you and taking a third?
Nothing. Much better to just be Soulkey and win out right against 2 base all ins.
i always think that skt send Soulkey on Yeonsu just so he can stop soul trains
Well, SKT can send anyone to stop anything on any map .
Except Zest on every map with everyone.
That was quite a burn right there, hehe. You're mean. But Zest just got lucky and it won't repeat, and I expect SKT1 to 3-0 KT next time the meet.