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NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
January 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#861
LOL... those FFs did nothing.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#862
Derp vs clutch defense
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#863
On January 22 2014 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:
I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun.

What were the games like?


TvP.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#864
On January 22 2014 19:02 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

Poll: Who is more handsome?

Stork (27)
 
55%

CJ herO (22)
 
45%

49 total votes

Your vote: Who is more handsome?

(Vote): Stork
(Vote): CJ herO

jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#865
On January 22 2014 20:48 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:46 Arceus wrote:
Hows about a small fix like timewarp affecting both parties?


Complete removal of the spell would be better, the unit was made for defensive purposes. Why do they need offensive ability as well. You can't have a unit that makes everything x10 better without some clear drawbacks.


Maybe make it a reaserchable spell? I dunno. I'd rather ditch it and give them vortex back at this point lol.
In the rear with the gear!
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#866
On January 22 2014 20:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:47 Swisslink wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:
There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!!

There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well...

+ Show Spoiler +
SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats
Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora
Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra


I can see this + Show Spoiler +
not
happen.


Look at the bright side: While the Terrans so far had to play A LOT of Protoss, now there's gonna be a bunch of TvZ's :-P

But even if it's true that Terrans do horrendeously bad:One of the reason is also that some of the best Terrans simply changed to Europe/America, while all of the top Zerg/Protoss are still in Korea. Bomber's gone, Taeja's gone, Jjakji's gone and - if you still wanna count him - MVP's gone. So: Yes, Terran is weak right now, but that's not the only reason there are so few Terrans in Code S this season.


Obviously the reason Innovation lost to Zest and herO in Code B is because Taeja is in America.

edit: Dear is still the best Protoss player right? He's overseas.


I'm not saying it's the reason Innovation failed. But with Bomber, Taeja and Jjakji in Code S, the situation for the Terrans might still not be insanely good, but at least way better. And I'd expect all those three to reach Code S, tbh.

And: Dear is in Code S. Definitely not overseas. o_O
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#867
I'm about 90% certain I remember some of the people who are bringing up statistics waving away some of the old tvz stats from the last few seasons lol.

What hypocrites.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#868
On January 22 2014 20:46 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:45 AlternativeEgo wrote:
How would the old 2011 anti-blink recipe with Combat Shields, Concussive Shells and repaired bunkers hold up nowadays?


die to transition into fast ht. you can't pressure and your medivacs are fking late. I think a 2b colo all in should be a free win too.

Happened to Fantasy like 3 days ago lol
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#869
On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls !



I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT.

If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit.


Imbalance when everbody was still learning and when the game is figured out are very two different things.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#870
On January 22 2014 20:53 jekku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:48 Talack wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:46 Arceus wrote:
Hows about a small fix like timewarp affecting both parties?


Complete removal of the spell would be better, the unit was made for defensive purposes. Why do they need offensive ability as well. You can't have a unit that makes everything x10 better without some clear drawbacks.


Maybe make it a reaserchable spell? I dunno. I'd rather ditch it and give them vortex back at this point lol.


i dunno if you could do some timings if it wasn't there, like what BravO tried vs Sora
Zest fanboy.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12907 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#871
both stork and hero are really handsome.
stork is the standard 30s type of mature korean man type while hero is more of the kpop idol type.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#872
On January 22 2014 20:51 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:
I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun.

What were the games like?


blink.

Ah, tactical genius by the protoss players.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 22 2014 11:53 GMT
#873
On January 22 2014 20:50 Dalnore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
Does anyone know the stats on what the record is for least amount of one race in Code S?

Toss in sad zealot era?

There's only 2 Terran in Code S though there could be a max of 8, but I doubt 8 will happen.

I think it's 5 protosses in 2011 October ((Wiki)2011 Global StarCraft II League October/Code S).

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_S
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_November/Code_S

Also 5 Protoss each.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:54 GMT
#874
On January 22 2014 20:53 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:46 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:45 AlternativeEgo wrote:
How would the old 2011 anti-blink recipe with Combat Shields, Concussive Shells and repaired bunkers hold up nowadays?


die to transition into fast ht. you can't pressure and your medivacs are fking late. I think a 2b colo all in should be a free win too.

Happened to Fantasy like 3 days ago lol


imo it's the easiest build for P but you can hold it with really good micro so at their level it's not that good.
Zest fanboy.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 22 2014 11:55 GMT
#875
On January 22 2014 20:53 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:47 Swisslink wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:
There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!!

There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well...

+ Show Spoiler +
SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats
Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora
Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra


I can see this + Show Spoiler +
not
happen.


Look at the bright side: While the Terrans so far had to play A LOT of Protoss, now there's gonna be a bunch of TvZ's :-P

But even if it's true that Terrans do horrendeously bad:One of the reason is also that some of the best Terrans simply changed to Europe/America, while all of the top Zerg/Protoss are still in Korea. Bomber's gone, Taeja's gone, Jjakji's gone and - if you still wanna count him - MVP's gone. So: Yes, Terran is weak right now, but that's not the only reason there are so few Terrans in Code S this season.


Obviously the reason Innovation lost to Zest and herO in Code B is because Taeja is in America.

edit: Dear is still the best Protoss player right? He's overseas.


I'm not saying it's the reason Innovation failed. But with Bomber, Taeja and Jjakji in Code S, the situation for the Terrans might still not be insanely good, but at least way better. And I'd expect all those three to reach Code S, tbh.

And: Dear is in Code S. Definitely not overseas. o_O


Sure... the same way we expected Flash and Inno to get in. Taeja is the only one I'd consider guaranteed safe bet at this stage.

But: what the hell was it that I read about Dear that made me think this? That's strange.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:55:55
January 22 2014 11:55 GMT
#876
On January 22 2014 20:53 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:51 sAsImre wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:
I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun.

What were the games like?


blink.

Ah, tactical genius by the protoss players.


they transitionned well when he defended it and killed him with it when it wasn't the case. frost/heavy rain/yeonsu in one bo3 too.
Zest fanboy.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 22 2014 11:56 GMT
#877
On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls !

That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
January 22 2014 11:56 GMT
#878
On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls !



I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT.

If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit.


You have to remember that this was back when you it was really easy to stay in code S due to the format. The second they changed the format a bunch of terrans dropped out.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:58:46
January 22 2014 11:57 GMT
#879
On January 22 2014 20:55 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:53 Swisslink wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:48 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:47 Swisslink wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:
There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!!

There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well...

+ Show Spoiler +
SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats
Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora
Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra


I can see this + Show Spoiler +
not
happen.


Look at the bright side: While the Terrans so far had to play A LOT of Protoss, now there's gonna be a bunch of TvZ's :-P

But even if it's true that Terrans do horrendeously bad:One of the reason is also that some of the best Terrans simply changed to Europe/America, while all of the top Zerg/Protoss are still in Korea. Bomber's gone, Taeja's gone, Jjakji's gone and - if you still wanna count him - MVP's gone. So: Yes, Terran is weak right now, but that's not the only reason there are so few Terrans in Code S this season.


Obviously the reason Innovation lost to Zest and herO in Code B is because Taeja is in America.

edit: Dear is still the best Protoss player right? He's overseas.


I'm not saying it's the reason Innovation failed. But with Bomber, Taeja and Jjakji in Code S, the situation for the Terrans might still not be insanely good, but at least way better. And I'd expect all those three to reach Code S, tbh.

And: Dear is in Code S. Definitely not overseas. o_O


Sure... the same way we expected Flash and Inno to get in. Taeja is the only one I'd consider guaranteed safe bet at this stage.

But: what the hell was it that I read about Dear that made me think this? That's strange.


There's another Dear in Europe, afaik. And the Korean Dear joined a foreign team :-P

And: Jjakji had a Code S spot guaranteed. He just gave it up :-P
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
January 22 2014 11:57 GMT
#880
On January 22 2014 20:53 bo1b wrote:
I'm about 90% certain I remember some of the people who are bringing up statistics waving away some of the old tvz stats from the last few seasons lol.

What hypocrites.


Could you link us to a Code S season where only 2 zergs or let's be generous and say less than 6 zergs qualified for Code S (in HotS)? Pretty sure that was never the case.

I don't really follow Sc2 anymore personally, only occasionally watch Proleague or Code S, so I have no vested interest in balance, but even I can see that the way it is right now isn't right. What hurts the game alot more than balance whine, is people being blind to even the most obvious imbalances. It ruins the fun for everybody, the viewers, the players.... why defend that status quo?
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