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On January 22 2014 20:53 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT. If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit. Imbalance when everbody was still learning and when the game is figured out are very two different things.
In 2011 ? It was already more than one year. This time it's not even one year since HotS has been released. And, there are still 6 T that can qualify. If you don't want to wait more than a season to cry hard, at least wait for the whole results of one season. Please.
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On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year.
Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness".
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Watching the games I think David Kim is on to something when he wants to nerf Photon Overcharge.
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On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness".
actually fairness isn't punishing someone because his daddy did something bad in the past.
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Wow Stork sick with it!!!
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On January 22 2014 20:55 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:53 Jono7272 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation  The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun. What were the games like? blink. Ah, tactical genius by the protoss players. they transitionned well when he defended it and killed him with it when it wasn't the case. frost/heavy rain/yeonsu in one bo3 too.
Sounds like my TvP's. It's too fucking versatile.
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On January 22 2014 20:57 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:53 imrusty269 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT. If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit. Imbalance when everbody was still learning and when the game is figured out are very two different things. In 2011 ? It was already more than one year. This time it's not even one year since HotS has been released. And, there are still 6 T that can qualify. If you don't want to wait more than a season to cry hard, at least wait for the whole results of one season. Please.
Or you know, watch the games and make your own judgement. A lot of us play as well, I don't overly care about 50/50 matchup parity, the things Protoss can do now are beyond silly
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On January 22 2014 20:59 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:55 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 20:53 Jono7272 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun. What were the games like? blink. Ah, tactical genius by the protoss players. they transitionned well when he defended it and killed him with it when it wasn't the case. frost/heavy rain/yeonsu in one bo3 too. Sounds like my TvP's. It's too fucking versatile.
good guess you're in a good spot, wrong guess you lose. odds are slightly tweaked.
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On January 22 2014 20:57 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:53 imrusty269 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT. If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit. Imbalance when everbody was still learning and when the game is figured out are very two different things. In 2011 ? It was already more than one year. This time it's not even one year since HotS has been released. And, there are still 6 T that can qualify. If you don't want to wait more than a season to cry hard, at least wait for the whole results of one season. Please.
ironic coming from you, as soon as protoss loses a game you're the first one to whine
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On January 22 2014 20:59 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". actually fairness isn't punishing someone because his daddy did something bad in the past.
Thats basically what he said I thought
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On January 22 2014 21:01 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:57 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:53 imrusty269 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT. If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit. Imbalance when everbody was still learning and when the game is figured out are very two different things. In 2011 ? It was already more than one year. This time it's not even one year since HotS has been released. And, there are still 6 T that can qualify. If you don't want to wait more than a season to cry hard, at least wait for the whole results of one season. Please. ironic coming from you, as soon as protoss loses a game you're the first one to whine
plansix got a disciple ?
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Clash of the max out, return of the +3 lol
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On January 22 2014 20:59 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". actually fairness isn't punishing someone because his daddy did something bad in the past.
That's why I used quotes! I guess revenge is a better word for it.
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On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness".
There are some balance variations along a short period of time that are naturally going to happen. The shorter the period the more likely it is to have imblance. P endured imbalance for so much more time than this and didn't even whine that much. So I say at the very least wait for over a season (as there are still 6 T remaining this seaon) before whining.
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On January 22 2014 20:57 SlixSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:53 bo1b wrote:
I'm about 90% certain I remember some of the people who are bringing up statistics waving away some of the old tvz stats from the last few seasons lol.
What hypocrites. Could you link us to a Code S season where only 2 zergs or let's be generous and say less than 6 zergs qualified for Code S (in HotS)? Pretty sure that was never the case. I don't really follow Sc2 anymore personally, only occasionally watch Proleague or Code S, so I have no vested interest in balance, but even I can see that the way it is right now isn't right. What hurts the game alot more than balance whine, is people being blind to even the most obvious imbalances. It ruins the fun for everybody, the viewers, the players.... why defend that status quo?
I'm not defending it, I think the games current "meta" is a fucking joke. In any event we had several seasons in wcs premier of having just jaedong or and soulkey or scarlett being the only zergs in the finals.
I still think despite all of this taeja is going to win.
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On January 22 2014 21:01 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:59 sAsImre wrote:On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". actually fairness isn't punishing someone because his daddy did something bad in the past. Thats basically what he said I thought
might be my bad but i understood as he would rather have a fun and balance game (like every sane person) than an imbalance game for the sake of balancing the griefs.
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On January 22 2014 21:01 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:01 AxionSteel wrote:On January 22 2014 20:57 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:53 imrusty269 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:51 samurai80 wrote:On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT. If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit. Imbalance when everbody was still learning and when the game is figured out are very two different things. In 2011 ? It was already more than one year. This time it's not even one year since HotS has been released. And, there are still 6 T that can qualify. If you don't want to wait more than a season to cry hard, at least wait for the whole results of one season. Please. ironic coming from you, as soon as protoss loses a game you're the first one to whine plansix got a disciple ?
Yeah he had to train someone up to keep up his forum presence while he discusses how Starbow is overrated
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On January 22 2014 21:01 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". There are some balance variations along a short period of time that are naturally going to happen. The shorter the period the more likely it is to have imblance. P endured imbalance for so much more time than this and didn't even whine that much. So I say at the very least wait for over a season (as there are still 6 T remaining this seaon) before whining.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267497
go spill your lies somewhere else please.
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On January 22 2014 20:59 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:58 DJHelium wrote:On January 22 2014 20:56 Bagi wrote:On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls ! That was 2011, people were only starting to play on bigger maps and the game as a whole wasn't figured out in the least. People expect better balance in the games 4th year. Also having a race imbalanced just because another race was imbalanced before isn't a great way to reason. I think most viewers and players rather have a balanced and fun game to watch, instead of "fairness". actually fairness isn't punishing someone because his daddy did something bad in the past.
Well as a german Im used to it...
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