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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 22 2014 11:48 GMT
#841
Haha, another one of these weird games.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:48 GMT
#842
On January 22 2014 20:47 Dark.Carnival wrote:
well, gogo Stork~ I like herO and would probably prefer him in Code S but I'm feeling a bit salty that he knocked Innovation out. And as a Stork fan it would be awesome if he got into Code S :3


that Stork come back. wins 1game in PL, gets into code S
Zest fanboy.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:49:59
January 22 2014 11:48 GMT
#843
On January 22 2014 20:47 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:
There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!!

There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well...

+ Show Spoiler +
SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats
Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora
Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra


I can see this + Show Spoiler +
not
happen.


Look at the bright side: While the Terrans so far had to play A LOT of Protoss, now there's gonna be a bunch of TvZ's :-P

But even if it's true that Terrans do horrendeously bad:One of the reason is also that some of the best Terrans simply changed to Europe/America, while all of the top Zerg/Protoss are still in Korea. Bomber's gone, Taeja's gone, Jjakji's gone and - if you still wanna count him - MVP's gone. So: Yes, Terran is weak right now, but that's not the only reason there are so few Terrans in Code S this season.


Obviously the reason Innovation lost to Zest and herO in Code B is because Taeja is in America.

edit: Dear is still the best Protoss player right? He's overseas.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 22 2014 11:49 GMT
#844
WOOKI THE ROOKIE AIN'T A ROOKIE ANYMORE!!!

i'm proud of you zest!!! you've come so far ;;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP GOING I LOVE YOU YOU'RE AWESOMENESS!!!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:49 GMT
#845
On January 22 2014 20:48 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:46 Arceus wrote:
Hows about a small fix like timewarp affecting both parties?


Complete removal of the spell would be better, the unit was made for defensive purposes. Why do they need offensive ability as well. You can't have a unit that makes everything x10 better without some clear drawbacks.


you cut 2probes for it !
Zest fanboy.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 22 2014 11:49 GMT
#846
On January 22 2014 20:45 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
Does anyone know the stats on what the record is for least amount of one race in Code S?

Toss in sad zealot era?

There's only 2 Terran in Code S though there could be a max of 8, but I doubt 8 will happen.

Toss had 3 seasons of 5 which was the lowest season on record so far.

Terran had 20 in its peak at one point, I wonder if that record will be broken by toss this season (can it be broken?)


only 3 toss left, so max would be 16 in Code S


Terran forever | Maru hater forever
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24946 Posts
January 22 2014 11:49 GMT
#847
On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls !

Lol, yeah the matchup is fine ATM and past strong periods for T should be held against them forever when balancing. GoMTvT was years ago at this stage
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
January 22 2014 11:49 GMT
#848
On January 22 2014 20:43 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:38 Vasoline73 wrote:
How weird that T is doing so well in PL, but so terribly in GSL. Is it just the maps? Luck? Very strange.

Gogo Stork in the meantime! Feel for CJ but Stork winning a GSL would be a massive event for the SC community. I hope he keeps that option open by advancing here. Heart of a champion!


I think only terrans that do well in PL are Maru (all matchups) TY (all matchups) and Flash (mostly vs. zerg)
Remove Maru and TY against protoss and check the stats again.

Poor TY continues to struggle outside of Proleague though. Got 2-0d by Alicia today in the IEM qualifiers


And 4-0ed against Yongwha in the Code A qualifiers...
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#849
lol Bogus wtf
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#850
On January 22 2014 20:45 Hopelessnoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:
There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!!

There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well...

+ Show Spoiler +
SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats
Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora
Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra


I can see this + Show Spoiler +
not
happen.

Thebest will advance EZPZ.
He will ROFLSTOMP the group. The non terrans are a failed LOL pro and some KT scrub.
Haha JKJK but i think supernova and ryung/dream have a shot. Reality might...... but that group is hard....

IMO SuperNova, Hack, Dream, and Ryung have a very good chance to advance... but TheBest and Reality could also surprise everyone.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#851
On January 22 2014 20:42 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:39 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 22 2014 20:38 Vasoline73 wrote:
How weird that T is doing so well in PL, but so terribly in GSL. Is it just the maps? Luck? Very strange.

Gogo Stork in the meantime! Feel for CJ but Stork winning a GSL would be a massive event for the SC community. I hope he keeps that option open by advancing here. Heart of a champion!


I think only terrans that do well in PL are Maru (all matchups) TY (all matchups) and Flash (mostly vs. zerg)
Remove Maru and TY against protoss and check the stats again.


8-8.
Still decent.


Yeah and Code A is 23-6 for protoss.
Dalnore
Profile Joined May 2013
Russian Federation66 Posts
January 22 2014 11:50 GMT
#852
On January 22 2014 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
Does anyone know the stats on what the record is for least amount of one race in Code S?

Toss in sad zealot era?

There's only 2 Terran in Code S though there could be a max of 8, but I doubt 8 will happen.

I think it's 5 protosses in 2011 October ((Wiki)2011 Global StarCraft II League October/Code S).
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#853
On January 22 2014 20:47 tribulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:45 samurai80 wrote:
A bunch of P win in GSL: twitch mode activated. We had multiple times the same "imbalance" in GSL results in previous seasons, often in favor of terrans, but interestingly enough the whine wasn't that hard. Nerf T whine pls !



I seem to recall everyone whining a shit ton during GomTvT.

If this last for more than one season, as it was the case for GOMTvT, I will give your argument some credit.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#854
On January 22 2014 20:38 Vasoline73 wrote:
How weird that T is doing so well in PL, but so terribly in GSL. Is it just the maps? Luck? Very strange.

Gogo Stork in the meantime! Feel for CJ but Stork winning a GSL would be a massive event for the SC community. I hope he keeps that option open by advancing here. Heart of a champion!


It's a game of statistics entirely. In proleague, there are very few terrans and a lot of protoss (last week the stats were 8 terrans to 24 protoss, I think. Need to recount now.) So the very very best terrans (actually only Maru, Flash and TY) get matched against less than mediocre Protoss (Stork, eMotion (don't get me started on how bad this guy is..., etc.). As the MU's are lopsided, they get a lot of wins.

In Code A, the stats are roughly even, you have more terrans and fewer Protoss. Also, everyone there has been vetted, so there aren't terrible players. Furthermore, you cannot just get a win in Code A, you need to advance to the winners match and win there, so you nearly always play the strongest P in your group (Exception: Bbyong, who's now in Code S ).
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#855
I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun.

What were the games like?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#856
So the only hope for balance (without changes) at the moment is if a stable way of getting to late game mech vs zerg is reached, that way t>z>p>t
Diogenes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States132 Posts
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#857
On January 22 2014 20:47 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:
There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!!

There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well...

+ Show Spoiler +
SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats
Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora
Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra


I can see this + Show Spoiler +
not
happen.


Look at the bright side: While the Terrans so far had to play A LOT of Protoss, now there's gonna be a bunch of TvZ's :-P

But even if it's true that Terrans do horrendeously bad: One of the reasons is also that some of the best Terrans simply changed to Europe/America, while all of the top Zerg/Protoss are still in Korea. Bomber's gone, Taeja's gone, Jjakji's gone and - if you still wanna count him - MVP's gone. So: Yes, Terran is weak right now, but that's not the only reason there are so few Terrans in Code S this season.


We get a few TvZ in Code A and then Code S is going to be all PvP, and PvZ's. Does anyone really think that PvX aren't the worst 3 matchups in the game?

Not only is the game imbalanced, the dominant race is dominant because of an overpowered spellcaster unit that does too much.
"When Godzilla attacks, he advances rather than retreats. We can use this to our advantage."
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 11:52:51
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#858
On January 22 2014 20:50 Dalnore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 20:43 Thrillz wrote:
Does anyone know the stats on what the record is for least amount of one race in Code S?

Toss in sad zealot era?

There's only 2 Terran in Code S though there could be a max of 8, but I doubt 8 will happen.

I think it's 5 protosses in 2011 October ((Wiki)2011 Global StarCraft II League October/Code S).

1 P in 2011 (and it was Killer...), let me check which one.
Edit : was for RO16 nvm.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:51 GMT
#859
On January 22 2014 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:
I'm late. What the fuck, INnovation The days of GomTvT are over, the days of PvP have just begun.

What were the games like?


blink.
Zest fanboy.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 22 2014 11:52 GMT
#860
On January 22 2014 20:51 bo1b wrote:
So the only hope for balance (without changes) at the moment is if a stable way of getting to late game mech vs zerg is reached, that way t>z>p>t


maps can shit on protoss.
Zest fanboy.
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