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On January 22 2014 20:40 SunflowerSeeds wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:38 imrusty269 wrote: What's so concerning is that herO looks so happy after that win. Does he really think that he is better than Innovation. People can't be happy when they win anymore? strange world. And ofc he's better, he just won against innovation. What's to argue here?
He can be happy but beating someone in a BO3 doesn't make him better than the other person. See also: Sjow vs Life
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On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!! There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well... + Show Spoiler +SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra I can see this + Show Spoiler + happen. If hack or reality get in over drg I'll be so fucking mad.
It's probably going to happen :\
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On January 22 2014 20:39 sudete wrote: In all seriousness though, can someone explain how to beat that build on that map? Or was Inno doomed from the moment he went CC first -> 3 rax / stim -> vacs?
he went for a greedy version without 3 add ons. The thing is that you're behind if the P just threaten and doesn't commit with the 3add on version, you've to guess what's going on (or P will make one sentry, hallu and get the upper hand anyway)
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On January 22 2014 20:39 Nomzter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:37 willyallthewei wrote: more marauders and sensor tower? I see TY do it, why not inno? ty is one of the best terrans in the world, innovation is just a good terran :D:D
Ty only good in team leagues. and innovation is god of team leagues so inno> ty
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On January 22 2014 20:39 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:38 Vasoline73 wrote: How weird that T is doing so well in PL, but so terribly in GSL. Is it just the maps? Luck? Very strange.
Gogo Stork in the meantime! Feel for CJ but Stork winning a GSL would be a massive event for the SC community. I hope he keeps that option open by advancing here. Heart of a champion! I think only terrans that do well in PL are Maru (all matchups) TY (all matchups) and Flash (mostly vs. zerg) Remove Maru and TY against protoss and check the stats again. Poor TY continues to struggle outside of Proleague though. Got 2-0d by Alicia today in the IEM qualifiers
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On January 22 2014 20:38 Vasoline73 wrote: How weird that T is doing so well in PL, but so terribly in GSL. Is it just the maps? Luck? Very strange.
Gogo Stork in the meantime! Feel for CJ but Stork winning a GSL would be a massive event for the SC community. I hope he keeps that option open by advancing here. Heart of a champion!
Really its just Maru, TY and Flash doing well. Everyone else is too afraid to send out a Terran, or they are doing OK. Not to mention it is Bo1 so it is a bit different with the format.
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Does anyone know the stats on what the record is for least amount of one race in Code S?
Toss in sad zealot era?
There's only 2 Terran in Code S though there could be a max of 8, but I doubt 8 will happen.
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I love how thee guys rag about daedalous point for 2 games but arent questioning ANY balance issues. Like i'm not asking them to call out david kim out or anything just raise some questions at least.
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Only seeing Stork cannon rushing HerO can make me happy now =P
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On January 22 2014 20:41 3D-Swifty wrote: Wow... im a protos player but the way HOTS is going atm in sickining. Starbow is a free project and its way more fun and ballanced than this. lel
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Proxy oracles, 2 base blink builds. Story of my ladder life.
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On January 22 2014 20:38 Vasoline73 wrote: How weird that T is doing so well in PL, but so terribly in GSL. Is it just the maps? Luck? Very strange.
Gogo Stork in the meantime! Feel for CJ but Stork winning a GSL would be a massive event for the SC community. I hope he keeps that option open by advancing here. Heart of a champion!
Maps are a factor, I think the kespa maps are a little pro Terran. Otherwise the kespa tosses like their allins, so in PL Terrans play super save. While the other Protoss prefer to play rather greedy and beat the Terrans by simply outmacroing them, because the Terran opened to save.
Seems hard for Terran to stay save against both of the Toss extremes.
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On January 22 2014 20:37 shockaslim wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:35 Dark.Carnival wrote: oh no, lack of bunkers is sadface innovation ;_; I honestly don't know what else he could have done. The stalkers could have just focused two bunkers in the nat down if he had them, plus with the time warp there is no way he could have stopped it. you usually have two at your natural with scvs on autorepair. he had one and i think no scvs? not that he was going to stop the stalkers killing the bunker, but it is a good deterrent.
that game was actually a good time for sensor tower because he went 14cc he can afford the ebay/sensor tower and have his units ghosting the protoss. that all said if the protoss wants to kill you with blink on a map like yeonsu they probably will. short of perfect defense everywhere, any weak spot can get exploited so fast you will almost instantly lose like what happened to innovation ;_;
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On January 22 2014 20:42 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:39 Nomzter wrote:On January 22 2014 20:37 willyallthewei wrote: more marauders and sensor tower? I see TY do it, why not inno? ty is one of the best terrans in the world, innovation is just a good terran :D:D Ty only good in team leagues. and innovation is god of team leagues so inno> ty
TY lost 4 - 0 to yongwha in code a quali and lost 2 - 0 to alicia in iem quali. Seems like he needs proleague to feel comfortable or something.
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I swear Bbyong is the KeSPA reincarnation of Ensnare. He'll always be there to fall out of Code S before the Ro8.
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On January 22 2014 20:42 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:39 sudete wrote: In all seriousness though, can someone explain how to beat that build on that map? Or was Inno doomed from the moment he went CC first -> 3 rax / stim -> vacs? he went for a greedy version without 3 add ons. The thing is that you're behind if the P just threaten and doesn't commit with the 3add on version, you've to guess what's going on (or P will make one sentry, hallu and get the upper hand anyway)
u can only guess that build. On that map it is nearly impossible not to fall behind as a Terran if executed correctly.
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The cool thing is, we call that "blink all-in" because it's ridiculous strong strat with blink, but it's not even an all-in. That's how Protoss rolls.
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On January 22 2014 20:39 Elite_ wrote:There's still hope for Terrans in Code S, guys!!! There can be 8 total. All that needs to happen is, well... + Show Spoiler +SuperNova and TheBest > CoCa and Stats Hack and Reality > DRG and Sora Dream and Ryung > TRUE and Hydra I can see this + Show Spoiler + happen. Thebest will advance EZPZ. He will ROFLSTOMP the group. The non terrans are a failed LOL pro and some KT scrub. Haha JKJK but i think supernova and ryung/dream have a shot. Reality might...... but that group is hard....
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On January 22 2014 20:42 sudete wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 20:40 SunflowerSeeds wrote:On January 22 2014 20:38 imrusty269 wrote: What's so concerning is that herO looks so happy after that win. Does he really think that he is better than Innovation. People can't be happy when they win anymore? strange world. And ofc he's better, he just won against innovation. What's to argue here? He can be happy but beating someone in a BO3 doesn't make him better than the other person. See also: Sjow vs Life
Ofc Sjow is better than Life at that time, he won.
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On January 22 2014 20:43 Thrillz wrote: Does anyone know the stats on what the record is for least amount of one race in Code S?
Toss in sad zealot era?
There's only 2 Terran in Code S though there could be a max of 8, but I doubt 8 will happen.
Yeah, it was only HuK and Swagger at one point iirc. But maybe that was ro16?
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