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manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
December 29 2013 01:53 GMT
#181
On December 29 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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On December 29 2013 09:18 ZenithM wrote:
80-100 APM is kinda constraining race-wise. I don't doubt you can execute the full range of Protoss strat with less than 100 APM, but I'm a bit more skeptical about some Terran technical situations. It would be interesting nonetheless.


It would REALLY promote efficiency. I played protoss, and initially when SC2 was released my APM was 80-90 and I was diamond. I made my transition to masters once I reached 120 APM, and ended up playing high master level at 150 APM. I would think it's possible especially considering Goody and Sjow (who are terran obviously) play at tournament level for a while with 100-120 APM I believe.

There also were changes in how APM is calculated on blizzard side of things sometime in 2011, so I don't exactly remember how that might have changed it.


I think this won't work, at least for zergs. Just to keep on top of injects + creep spread and general mechanics zerg is just higher APM. Probably 140-150 just to keep up.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 01:55:33
December 29 2013 01:55 GMT
#182
On December 29 2013 10:53 manicshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 09:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 29 2013 09:18 ZenithM wrote:
80-100 APM is kinda constraining race-wise. I don't doubt you can execute the full range of Protoss strat with less than 100 APM, but I'm a bit more skeptical about some Terran technical situations. It would be interesting nonetheless.


It would REALLY promote efficiency. I played protoss, and initially when SC2 was released my APM was 80-90 and I was diamond. I made my transition to masters once I reached 120 APM, and ended up playing high master level at 150 APM. I would think it's possible especially considering Goody and Sjow (who are terran obviously) play at tournament level for a while with 100-120 APM I believe.

There also were changes in how APM is calculated on blizzard side of things sometime in 2011, so I don't exactly remember how that might have changed it.


I think this won't work, at least for zergs. Just to keep on top of injects + creep spread and general mechanics zerg is just higher APM. Probably 140-150 just to keep up.


I have around 110 APM as a Zerg with no micro at all. I just macro and creep spread and do 0 control and my macro is still not great.
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
December 29 2013 02:11 GMT
#183
Hilarious how Protoss got 1st and 2nd
T P Z sagi
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 29 2013 03:05 GMT
#184
On December 29 2013 11:11 purakushi wrote:
Hilarious how Protoss got 1st and 2nd

Come on dude, Protoss did lose some games.
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
December 29 2013 04:27 GMT
#185
watching vods now can't wait!
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 22:38:07
January 01 2014 22:30 GMT
#186
On December 24 2013 23:34 AxCranK wrote:
Hey golden. Can I cast with you? It must be fun


So cool. :D Where are the VODs?
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
January 01 2014 22:45 GMT
#187
On January 02 2014 07:30 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 23:34 AxCranK wrote:
Hey golden. Can I cast with you? It must be fun


So cool. :D Where are the VODs?

This ought to be the starting VOD (at time 2:10). The rest should be here.
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
January 02 2014 02:04 GMT
#188
On January 02 2014 07:45 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 07:30 Crot4le wrote:
On December 24 2013 23:34 AxCranK wrote:
Hey golden. Can I cast with you? It must be fun


So cool. :D Where are the VODs?

This ought to be the starting VOD (at time 2:10). The rest should be here.


Thank you very much.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 02 2014 02:09 GMT
#189
On December 29 2013 12:05 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 11:11 purakushi wrote:
Hilarious how Protoss got 1st and 2nd

Come on dude, Protoss did lose some games.

I think he might have been getting at that people say Protoss is easy to play and you don't need HIGH APM, yet they both used HIGH APM. I mean, it's in the name PROtoss, right?
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 02 2014 03:12 GMT
#190
200 APM is a lot... these guys' fingers must be insanely fast
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
January 04 2014 09:22 GMT
#191
this ridiculous tournament was the most fun starcraft I've watched in a long time. Great casting too!!!
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
January 04 2014 11:23 GMT
#192
I think 250 APM might be a good cutoff, based on this tournament's results so far.
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
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