On October 13 2013 07:15 Derez wrote: Bah, I just want top foreigners that are, you know, people you can actually like.
I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.
The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.
Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.
have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy
No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.
But then if you've never met him your opinion on his personality also means less.
I disagree. The vast majority of people will never meet him. His personality in the public eye is what most people will see. I guess I should have clarified, and wrote "His personality in the public eye is in the top 3 most annoying people I've ever seen in my life" Sorry.
I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.
The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.
Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.
have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy
No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.
I really dont think Naniwa has done anything really bad lately. Sure he is emotional and rages a bit but in interviews etc hes been really humble lately
Besides calling Bly a maphacker like two weeks ago ?
And he wished Vortix's family to get cancer...
lol, he did? I don't watch wcs eu. that's pretty bad.
Uhm, he didn't even play vs Vortix this season, and I don't think they've met anywhere else either, so if he did indeed say that it can't have been too recently.
Unless they ran into each other on ladder or something.
It was in RO16, can't remember if it was season 2 or 3 but still.
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They didn't play vs each other in ro16 in either season. They did end up in the same group in season 1, which is when the denied handshake happened, but I can't recall anything about saying something about cancer. Do you have a link to a screenshot or something?
On October 13 2013 07:32 MavivaM wrote: Who cares about Naniwa's out of the game attics, you are here to watch players play, not to fake in front of cameras.
it's got to do with stuff like professionalism too, don't tell people what they are here to watch. in-game is important, but out-of-game is important too. otherwise innovation would be the most popular player ever and idra would have been another zerg.
agree 100%. i don't think i'm alone in saying that if player personalities didn't matter i wouldn't watch the game at all. are there really people here who watch games just for the thrill of seeing sick micro and have no interest at all in the people in the chairs? to each his own, but i find that very cold and strange
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote: [quote] The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.
Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.
have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy
No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.
I really dont think Naniwa has done anything really bad lately. Sure he is emotional and rages a bit but in interviews etc hes been really humble lately
Besides calling Bly a maphacker like two weeks ago ?
And he wished Vortix's family to get cancer...
lol, he did? I don't watch wcs eu. that's pretty bad.
Uhm, he didn't even play vs Vortix this season, and I don't think they've met anywhere else either, so if he did indeed say that it can't have been too recently.
Unless they ran into each other on ladder or something.
It was in RO16, can't remember if it was season 2 or 3 but still.
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They didn't play vs each other in ro16 in either season. They did end up in the same group in season 1, which is when the denied handshake happened, but I can't recall anything about saying something about cancer. Do you have a link to a screenshot or something?
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote: [quote] The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.
Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.
have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy
No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.
I really dont think Naniwa has done anything really bad lately. Sure he is emotional and rages a bit but in interviews etc hes been really humble lately
Besides calling Bly a maphacker like two weeks ago ?
And he wished Vortix's family to get cancer...
lol, he did? I don't watch wcs eu. that's pretty bad.
Uhm, he didn't even play vs Vortix this season, and I don't think they've met anywhere else either, so if he did indeed say that it can't have been too recently.
Unless they ran into each other on ladder or something.
It was in RO16, can't remember if it was season 2 or 3 but still.
?
They didn't play vs each other in ro16 in either season. They did end up in the same group in season 1, which is when the denied handshake happened, but I can't recall anything about saying something about cancer. Do you have a link to a screenshot or something?
He said it on ladder. Wouldn't have said something like that in WCS haha.
On October 13 2013 07:32 MavivaM wrote: Who cares about Naniwa's out of the game attics, you are here to watch players play, not to fake in front of cameras.
it's got to do with stuff like professionalism too, don't tell people what they are here to watch. in-game is important, but out-of-game is important too. otherwise innovation would be the most popular player ever and idra would have been another zerg.
My bad, I always assume people are here for my same reason. It was not an order!
On October 13 2013 07:32 MavivaM wrote: Who cares about Naniwa's out of the game attics, you are here to watch players play, not to fake in front of cameras.
it's got to do with stuff like professionalism too, don't tell people what they are here to watch. in-game is important, but out-of-game is important too. otherwise innovation would be the most popular player ever and idra would have been another zerg.
agree 100%. i don't think i'm alone in saying that if player personalities didn't matter i wouldn't watch the game at all. are there really people here who watch games just for the thrill of seeing sick micro and have no interest at all in the people in the chairs? to each his own, but i find that very cold and strange
There are some people like that, but they're the minority. Most " esports " fans don't actually like the game they're watching, they like the players, the personalities, the drama and the entertainment. The spectacle of the " sport ".
EPT
And DRG vs. Flash, especially games one and two. 
Work >.< 
