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doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
October 12 2013 22:27 GMT
#2681
On October 13 2013 07:25 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Redeye: Sweden is the 53rd state.

Curious as to what the 51st and 52nd states are... Korea and Canada?


Wait.. isn't there 52 states?

IDD haha Ive always thought it was 52 aswell :D. Oh well cant know everything can we
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2682
On October 13 2013 07:27 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:27 Boucot wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:26 doffe wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:24 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 Derez wrote:
Bah, I just want top foreigners that are, you know, people you can actually like.


I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.

The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.

Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.


have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy

No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.


I really dont think Naniwa has done anything really bad lately. Sure he is emotional and rages a bit but in interviews etc hes been really humble lately

Besides calling Bly a maphacker like two weeks ago ?

And he wished Vortix's family to get cancer...


lol, he did? I don't watch wcs eu. that's pretty bad.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2683
On October 13 2013 07:24 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 Derez wrote:
Bah, I just want top foreigners that are, you know, people you can actually like.


I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.

The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.

Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.


have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy

No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.

But then if you've never met him your opinion on his personality also means less.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2684
I hope someone from Marvel watched IEM and will consider sponsoring SC2.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2685
On October 13 2013 07:26 Waise wrote:
am i the only one who is 100% aware that the USA chants are intended to be ironic but still finds them totally pathetic?

Pretty much.

Oh, and fuck yeah Naniwa!
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2686
Good way to end the day. With a foreigner victory.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2687
On October 13 2013 07:27 DomiNater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:25 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Redeye: Sweden is the 53rd state.

Curious as to what the 51st and 52nd states are... Korea and Canada?

I suppose so. Or Redeye thinks we have 52 states. Can be excused because he's not American.


It's an Obama joke... I think. President Obama was quoted as saying he visited all 57 states in the US during his campaign for Presidency.

Pretty sure that was taken out of context.
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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2688
On October 13 2013 07:25 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:23 Mikau wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Darthsanta13 wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Pfft, that sucked. Seriously, someone, cheese him out already.

I thought you hated cheesers with all your heart

On October 13 2013 00:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 13 2013 00:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
I am not whining about it, but I think now is a good time to point out how hypocritical people are. Because nani blink all-inned a Korean for the win, everyone is fine with it. Other way around, and people would be whining. Just saying.

I am not biased, i hate the all-ining player either way >3


Hey, he all-ined out Hack beforehand. I would not mind someone cheesing him out because of all-ining Hack beforehand. I would be mad if San would cheese Naniwa out after he fair and square outplayed Hack in fair macro :D

I'm guessing you missed the first bo3, where Naniwa played a macro game 3 games and where Hack choo-choo'ed the last 2 games? Your double standard is hilarious.

I did see the first games with choo choo and seeing Naniwa getting essentially bopped by reaper was hilarious. He defended it well in other games though.

So you did see them, you just decided to ignore them?

And let's not mention how this "cheesing isn't playing the game properly" mentality is too retarded. They're progamers, they play to win. The best players always have and always will mix in cheese. I'd say one blink all in in 6 games vs Hack is pretty light on cheese too.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
October 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#2689
On October 13 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:27 Aeromi wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:27 Boucot wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:26 doffe wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:24 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 Derez wrote:
Bah, I just want top foreigners that are, you know, people you can actually like.


I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.

The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.

Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.


have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy

No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.


I really dont think Naniwa has done anything really bad lately. Sure he is emotional and rages a bit but in interviews etc hes been really humble lately

Besides calling Bly a maphacker like two weeks ago ?

And he wished Vortix's family to get cancer...


lol, he did? I don't watch wcs eu. that's pretty bad.

Vortix refused to handshake with Nani, he explained why on Twitter.
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DomiNater
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States527 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2690
On October 13 2013 07:27 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:25 Grettin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Redeye: Sweden is the 53rd state.

Curious as to what the 51st and 52nd states are... Korea and Canada?


Wait.. isn't there 52 states?

IDD haha Ive always thought it was 52 aswell :D. Oh well cant know everything can we


It's ok, our own President doesn't even know how many states there are.

After I captured the elephant in the room, swept her under the rug for the hell of it... I welcome you to the melting through, of a planet that was selfish in its development of a healthy view.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2691
Okay. My heart's predictions for tomorrow:
Life 3 2 Curious (hey, i won't even mention this as real prediction, since it is Life vZ)
Naniwa 3 1 Hyun (with strategies i mentioned on last page, also, hey, so far everytime i cheered against Naniwa he won, time to cheer for him).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2692
On October 13 2013 07:26 Waise wrote:
am i the only one who is 100% aware that the USA chants are intended to be ironic but still finds them totally pathetic?


Yes.

Don't you know that saying that something is ironic means it's funny and that you cannot criticize it because, you know, it ain't serious?
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2693
On October 13 2013 07:26 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:25 doffe wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:19 Doublemint wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:18 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:16 Doublemint wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Pfft, that sucked. Seriously, someone, cheese him out already.


:D I love how people ALWAYS get so mad when naniwa does well :D

I always get mad when he does so at the cost of someone who actually shows fine games without showing one. If he would actually beat Hack at straight up games (or San for that matter) i would not rage.


Are you related to IdrA or something?






and further more he got SCV pulled by hack all 3 games in the group stage. Only saw the blink allin game in the second bo3 though but was that straight up games by hack?

Yes.
Second Bo3.
1st game: Blink pressure into DT pressure into blink stalker + collosi all-in off 2 bases with hack making a single serious mistake into GG.
2nd game: Naniwa defends proxy reaper, fucks up +2 chargelot-storm timing to 1 EMP and loses in straight game.
3rd game: blink all-in.

so he won 1 bo3 against all ins and won one with all ins? seems pretty reasonable
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2694
On October 13 2013 07:28 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:27 Aeromi wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:27 Boucot wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:26 doffe wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:24 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 Derez wrote:
Bah, I just want top foreigners that are, you know, people you can actually like.


I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.

The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.

Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.


have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy

No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.


I really dont think Naniwa has done anything really bad lately. Sure he is emotional and rages a bit but in interviews etc hes been really humble lately

Besides calling Bly a maphacker like two weeks ago ?

And he wished Vortix's family to get cancer...


lol, he did? I don't watch wcs eu. that's pretty bad.

Nani and Nerchio on the EU ladder aren't super friendly
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RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2695
On October 13 2013 07:26 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Redeye: Sweden is the 53rd state.

Curious as to what the 51st and 52nd states are... Korea and Canada?

Haha, a lot of people think there are 52 states for some reason. I've heard/seen people think so a crazy amount. No idea why!


There was a lot of thought precess behind Redeyes words:

51st state = French --> Stephano
52nd state = Korea --> Polt
53rd state = Sweden --> Nani

don't mess with wise old english men =)
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 12 2013 22:29 GMT
#2696
On October 13 2013 07:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:24 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:20 RagequitBM wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Dodgin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 Derez wrote:
Bah, I just want top foreigners that are, you know, people you can actually like.


I have no problems actually liking naniwa, you should try it. just accept that your heroes are human beings that aren't perfect models of professionalism.

The problem for me isn't that he is not a model of professionalism, it's because he is the most annoying person I have ever seen. I don't understand how someone can like a person with that personality. Of course, I'm sure people who are fans of him think the opposite.

Also on Twitter hes probably 3x worse than up on stage.


have you actually met him? in real life he's a very nice guy

No, and that has no value in this conversation. I will never meet Naniwa, so my impression is from how he acts in the public eye. And it's terrible. He's a fantastic player, but I can never be a fan of someone with a personality like his.

But then if you've never met him your opinion on his personality also means less.

then are you one of those people who thinks the words you choose to say when you're behind a computer screen are somehow less "real" than saying them to someone's face? or do you think that if i'm nice to 100 people and rude to 1, it somehow "cancels out" the feelings of the one person i was rude to?
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 12 2013 22:30 GMT
#2697
On October 13 2013 07:29 dizzy101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:26 Waise wrote:
am i the only one who is 100% aware that the USA chants are intended to be ironic but still finds them totally pathetic?


Yes.

Don't you know that saying that something is ironic means it's funny and that you cannot criticize it because, you know, it ain't serious?

i legitimately can't tell whether you're being sarcastic
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 22:30 GMT
#2698
On October 13 2013 07:29 DomiNater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:27 doffe wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:25 Grettin wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Redeye: Sweden is the 53rd state.

Curious as to what the 51st and 52nd states are... Korea and Canada?


Wait.. isn't there 52 states?

IDD haha Ive always thought it was 52 aswell :D. Oh well cant know everything can we


It's ok, our own President doesn't even know how many states there are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Anyone can tell that's a joke...
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 22:32:07
October 12 2013 22:30 GMT
#2699
On October 13 2013 07:28 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:25 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:23 Mikau wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:19 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:17 Darthsanta13 wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:15 lolfail9001 wrote:
Pfft, that sucked. Seriously, someone, cheese him out already.

I thought you hated cheesers with all your heart

On October 13 2013 00:20 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 13 2013 00:19 Darkhoarse wrote:
I am not whining about it, but I think now is a good time to point out how hypocritical people are. Because nani blink all-inned a Korean for the win, everyone is fine with it. Other way around, and people would be whining. Just saying.

I am not biased, i hate the all-ining player either way >3


Hey, he all-ined out Hack beforehand. I would not mind someone cheesing him out because of all-ining Hack beforehand. I would be mad if San would cheese Naniwa out after he fair and square outplayed Hack in fair macro :D

I'm guessing you missed the first bo3, where Naniwa played a macro game 3 games and where Hack choo-choo'ed the last 2 games? Your double standard is hilarious.

I did see the first games with choo choo and seeing Naniwa getting essentially bopped by reaper was hilarious. He defended it well in other games though.

So you did see them, you just decided to ignore them?

And let's not mention how this "cheesing isn't playing the game properly" mentality is too retarded. They're progamers, they play to win. The best players always have and always will mix in cheese. I'd say one blink all in in 6 games vs Hack is pretty light on cheese too.

Cheesing IS a proper way to play the game. It is the worst thing to watch for me though. In fact, i understand why would Naniwa choose the builds he chose, but it still makes me rage watching this and hoping for a good game.
Choochoos are cute to watch for me though, since SCVs attacking stuff and dying from everything is pretty funny.
Watching collosi evaporate everything in a choke or 10 blink stalkers winning against 6 marauders is not. Call it bias, as it is bias.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
October 12 2013 22:30 GMT
#2700
Congratz nani
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