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On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying. Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS. Edit: Wait - that's actually not that far off from what the internet seems like on any average day.
Whoah, this just got deep fast.
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On September 27 2013 19:53 liberate71 wrote:
So it's safe to say that "IN MY HEAD" is the new ZooZoo
ZooZoo was actually enjoyable though. :s
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On September 27 2013 19:53 bo1b wrote:
I can already see many of you are interested
... but how does he know this?
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On September 27 2013 19:53 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying. Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS. I know but this guy is really sticking on my posts a bit too much.
Well at least in this instance "this guy" was right... widow mine marine is exactly the right thing to build. if you build to many marauders, the lings just overwhelm. Also a switch back to mutas will insta kill you.
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On September 27 2013 19:54 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:50 Scarecrow wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 Adreme wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 Nachtwind wrote:
adding a few infestors impossible? It was under the circumstances. At no point was he stable enough to even attempt a tech switch. ... he has an infestor pit, it's one upgrade the upgrade is 150 minerals and each infestor is 100 minerals that's 6 lings for the upgrade and 4 per infestor which are never made, can't bait mines, can't defend drops, can't become banelings. the more you move away from ling/bling and toward infestor, the more your mobility goes down. even if you manage to get a good ultra/infestor/bane deathball, a good terran will recognize it and just start dropping your main, sniping your 5th/6th/7th with marauders, etc even worse on such a huge map
Infestors are one of the best things for baiting mines and stopping drops...?
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On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. I'm not the only one saying soO should have made infestors too.
You're the only one saying "Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad," which is ridiculous. Just because Zerg has ultras doesn't mean Terran should stop producing Marines, or even worse, Mines (which are absolutely critical to weaken ultras). Infestors would have been inferior to mutas (who can at least kill Medivacs and defend drops) considering the low-econ situation in which soO was.
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On September 27 2013 19:53 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying. Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS. I know but this guy is really sticking on my posts a bit too much.
plus you were actually right in that situation, he really shouldn't have tried to get muta's and ultras once his muta ball was reduced to 9 he should have just kept that small muta count for drops and made infestors to help in the big engages.
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On September 27 2013 19:52 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:50 Scarecrow wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 Adreme wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 Nachtwind wrote:
adding a few infestors impossible? It was under the circumstances. At no point was he stable enough to even attempt a tech switch. ... he has an infestor pit, it's one upgrade Yeah, and it's not like you need to "commit" to infestors, you just need a handful to help in engagements.
Yeah that was my point but well anyway...
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On September 27 2013 19:53 bo1b wrote:
I can already see many of you are interested
it's what i always say to the ladies
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songs are getting more and more intolerable from season to season.
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On September 27 2013 19:53 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying. Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS. I know but this guy is really sticking on my posts a bit too much.
Well, that happens sometimes. I hate to think how many replies of mine are at slowbacontron, but that's just because we were conversating in the same thread on the same topic.
If he was going completely off on you unrelated to the actual content of what you were saying, I'd probably agree with you.
Then again, on the topic of what you were both discussing - my zerg is at best silver so I have no idea. It was fun to watch, even if the early use of widow mines made me cringe from a terran standpoint - all those marines wasted because he didn't kite back a little farther.
+ Show Spoiler +Of course, not being a pro - maybe it was intentional. I have no idea.
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Though in this particular game the medivac count wasnt huge, in most TvZ's it is and fungals just seem to tickle the army when 12-15 medivacs are healing. It will still take some time for zergs to use fungal ONLY for the lock and not throw around fungals like in WoL.
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On September 27 2013 19:55 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:54 Waise wrote:On September 27 2013 19:50 Scarecrow wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 Adreme wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 Nachtwind wrote:
adding a few infestors impossible? It was under the circumstances. At no point was he stable enough to even attempt a tech switch. ... he has an infestor pit, it's one upgrade the upgrade is 150 minerals and each infestor is 100 minerals that's 6 lings for the upgrade and 4 per infestor which are never made, can't bait mines, can't defend drops, can't become banelings. the more you move away from ling/bling and toward infestor, the more your mobility goes down. even if you manage to get a good ultra/infestor/bane deathball, a good terran will recognize it and just start dropping your main, sniping your 5th/6th/7th with marauders, etc even worse on such a huge map Infestors are one of the best things for baiting mines and stopping drops...?
so you bait mines with infested terrans, then what? are you confident you can push across the map and win right there? because if not, your infestors are losing energy and terran is still pushing bio into the map. and how do you expect to both bait mines and stop drops with infestors at that stage of the game on frost? are you going to put 2 infestors at every base? waddle them back and forth, slowly spending energy and making them become useless supply?
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On September 27 2013 19:56 robson1 wrote:
songs are getting more and more intolerable from season to season.
Musical Cataclysm
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On September 27 2013 19:55 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. I'm not the only one saying soO should have made infestors too. You're the only one saying "Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad," which is ridiculous. Just because Zerg has ultras doesn't mean Terran should stop producing Marines, or even worse, Mines (which are absolutely critical to weaken ultras). Infestors would have been inferior to mutas (who can at least kill Medivacs and defend drops) considering the low-econ situation in which soO was.
Low econ is when infestors are the bomb, and at one point he had 3k gas banked, and he had those 9 mutas, he didn't need to keep trying to make more, or even using them in the fights, could have just had them as drop patrol and made infestors instead of constantly making a few usless mutas that would just die in the fights.
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On September 27 2013 19:55 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. I'm not the only one saying soO should have made infestors too. You're the only one saying "Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad," which is ridiculous. Just because Zerg has ultras doesn't mean Terran should stop producing Marines, or even worse, Mines (which are absolutely critical to weaken ultras). Infestors would have been inferior to mutas (who can at least kill Medivacs and defend drops) considering the low-econ situation in which soO was.
I just meant I felt he had a bit too much marines for some time (basically on one engage he lost), but he increased his marauders number. Bad was maybe a bit oversaid I must admit, but man, no need to bash hard on everything I may oversay a bit.
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On September 27 2013 19:55 Conut wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 19:53 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:52 felisconcolori wrote:On September 27 2013 19:51 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:49 TheDwf wrote:On September 27 2013 19:48 samurai80 wrote:On September 27 2013 19:46 graNite wrote:On September 27 2013 19:44 Amestir wrote:
How the fuck is Soo winning engagments? I think jjakjji is too marine heavy. marines are really bad vs ultras Yeah, Jjakji building marines/mines vs Ultras is bad, as well soO should make some infestors instead of additional mutas imo. What they are doing is perfectly fine. You should not comment on a match-up you don't know. You should not comment my comments. Umm. Commenting comments is kindof what a forum is built on. Just saying. Without that, we're all just shouting messages down a wind tunnel thinking that maybe people heard us, without any feedback or knowing that what we're shouting is complete and utter BS. I know but this guy is really sticking on my posts a bit too much. plus you were actually right in that situation, he really shouldn't have tried to get muta's and ultras once his muta ball was reduced to 9 he should have just kept that small muta count for drops and made infestors to help in the big engages.
Why? Do you have any pro replay/VoD of that being an effective strategy?
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On September 27 2013 19:56 robson1 wrote:
songs are getting more and more intolerable from season to season.
They should just play kpop in the breaks.
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If jjakji beats inno here i can sleep earlier than expected
I BELIEVE
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regarding the mutas, keep in mind he had +3 attack so they were a lot more useful than normal dps wise.
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EPT
