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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4521
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything


He was being outplayed like hell, then he attacked and won

MMA did a stupid engagement in game 2 and he couldn't replenish his army
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4522
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything

With luck...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4523
On September 16 2013 04:36 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 04:35 Stolker wrote:
Innovation once said that despite Life's sloppy form, he still wants to face him one day. I hope it's going to be today.

After they faced in the GSL group of death they both acknowledged that Life did not play his best, and hoped for a rematch. Have they played an official match since then?

Not that I know of
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 19:39:11
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4524
Why the fuck am I watching a random nerd do boring things again?
Edit: Actually I don't even know what that is.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4525
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything

MMA smacked him around in game 1, was dominating him in Game 2 before taking a bad engagement into tank line, and then in game 3 it was on neo planet s so Innovation went for a tank marine timing after MMA did a 1 rax expand so MMA had no tanks/stim so GG.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4526
On September 16 2013 04:34 Crot4le wrote:
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On September 16 2013 04:33 illidanx wrote:
go go innovation. kespa forever!!!


Doesn't INnoVation play in the eSF GSTL for AxiomAcer now? I didn't know he was still Kespa?


Everyone is kespa now. Kespa was defeated, but like a good final boss they went into their final form taking control over everything. Now they work on destroying LoL, then they move over to dota2 easier to control a single game, especially if the owners like money over everything else.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4527
On September 16 2013 04:33 illidanx wrote:
go go innovation. kespa forever!!!

thats kind of ironic yo
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4528
On September 16 2013 04:36 Dodgin wrote:
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On September 16 2013 04:36 painkilla wrote:
What's with the Innovation hate. He has become a lot more likeable just by deserting Kespa. But MMA choked big time, he should of won that series comfortably.


I think most of the innovation " hate " is sarcastic

and yeah MMA choked big time, I'm really starting to see a pattern of brilliance followed by a complete full foreigner by MMA lately.

#TheRyuDifference
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4529
On September 16 2013 04:37 HugzForL wrote:
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On September 16 2013 04:36 dohgg wrote:
In general 1 Rax Fe, is quite a bad build TvT, because as people mentioned its kinda insta dies to gas first or 13 gas builds, but i think it was more of a mind game there, since 1 rax FE is ahead vs 15 gas expand, which probably MMA expected from innovation due to unknown reasons.

But yeah, there was no reason to take that risk imo...


Wrong, doesn't die to any gas first or early gas build as long as you scout.


that's why nobody uses it at pro lvl in tvt...
Zest fanboy.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 15 2013 19:38 GMT
#4530
Imagine Innovation handling that wine bottle if he wins
Refer to my post.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
September 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#4531
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything


with tanks and marines and stuff
"Right on" - Morrow
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
September 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#4532
On September 16 2013 04:38 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 04:34 Crot4le wrote:
On September 16 2013 04:33 illidanx wrote:
go go innovation. kespa forever!!!


Doesn't INnoVation play in the eSF GSTL for AxiomAcer now? I didn't know he was still Kespa?


Everyone is kespa now. Kespa was defeated, but like a good final boss they went into their final form taking control over everything. Now they work on destroying LoL, then they move over to dota2 easier to control a single game, especially if the owners like money over everything else.

My favorite Kespa players are Polt, Leenock, and Grubby.
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 19:40:11
September 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#4533
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything


Gets outplayed, MMA chokes -> wins one lucky fight

Next game I dont know man, just some lame shit I CANT TAKE THIS FUCK
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#4534
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything


First game was kind of close in the earlier stages. Banshee vs Banshee but INnoVation came out ahead. Both started dropping and INnoVation was 1 marineshot away from winning (killing 3rd CC) but didn't manage to do so. Proceeded to take damage from drops / losing combat shields. That in the end did lead to back fights and an overwhelming force from MMA.

Game 2
Bio/Tank . BoguS with banshee opening into 3cc not really doing anything. He got DEMOLISHED but MMA managed to be out of position/posture with his forces after dominating for good 10 minutes resulting in heavy rape of his army into INnoVation was standing with 12 tanks to 0 inside MMAs 3rd / OCs leading to a defeat.

Game 3:
FE from MMA vs Reaper/Tech FE from INnoVation. INnoVation followed it up by a tank/marine/medivac elevator push at aroun 9-10 minutes while MMA went 3 rax stimpack. He couldn't defend. INnoVation took the series.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#4535
Thanks guys
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#4536
On September 16 2013 04:36 Vandrad wrote:
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On September 16 2013 04:35 VisonKai wrote:
These blasphemers trying to insinuate that Life can't school Inno in the finals. Ha.

Life in the Finals? Not really


Heretic. You will see... you will see.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 19:40:37
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#4537
On September 16 2013 04:39 Noc- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything


Gets outplayed, MMA chokes -> wins one lucky fight

Next game I dont know man, just some lame shit I CANT TAKE THIS, FUCK!


Game 3 was WTF ...

That game was bogus.

Now Life fighting !
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#4538
On September 16 2013 04:37 Necosarius wrote:
How did Innovation win vs MMA? Couldn't watch anything


Two essentially marine-tank games. In game 1, MMA won by multitaksing, drops and good postioning. In game 2, he was winning as well, but overextended against tanks, lost everything and Innovation didn't want to wait for MMA's infinitely better economy to pay for itself and just rolled him over. Game 3 was a BO loss for MMA, stimless marines against a two-tank push.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#4539
sOs 2-0's Elfi and gets the seed for DH Winter.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#4540
On September 16 2013 04:38 Zenbrez wrote:
Imagine Innovation handling that wine bottle if he wins

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