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On September 14 2013 22:46 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:45 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:43 Taipoka wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:On September 14 2013 22:29 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:27 ETisME wrote:
have to say, Serral played much better than supernova both game imo Yeah the balance surely is ultimatively flawed when a European GM Zerg can go toe to toe with a Korean Code S Terran. Seriously lol is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg  and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass?  Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Yeah, i find it funny how everyone always forgets Sjow, who was knocked out of WCS Qualifiers by toss each time and won Bo3 against Life is irrelevant, when some GM zerg gets a close game against Code A(No guys, being in GSL Ro32 is not being Code S terran, especially if you get knocked out in Ro32) terran. On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:On September 14 2013 22:29 NarutO wrote:
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Yeah the balance surely is ultimatively flawed when a European GM Zerg can go toe to toe with a Korean Code S Terran. Seriously lol is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately  Edit: and I agree, great game Because SuperNova is not true Code S terran NOW, but just happened to get in it on the back of his OSL perfomance last season. Bang! Heard it first on TL. Being in GSL Code S 12 times and being in the ongoing Code S tournament DOES NOT... i repeat, does NOT make you a Code S player. Heard it first on TL. robson1 does not understand sarcarsm :D Someone Called Supernova a code A terran and he meant it. it's funny btw. how Code A terran is an insult, seeing as most Code A players could easily be Code S champions with a good run behind them :D
It's not an insult. But supernova is easily one of the top 10 main players in Code S, if you only look at how many times they been there. In fact, you might call him the vanguard of code S, since he's always always in it, without ever really competing for the title. If he's not a Code S player, i don't know who earned that title. Consistency is a remarkable quality, that is sadly
overlooked a lot.
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On September 14 2013 22:47 dreamseller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:46 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 14 2013 22:45 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:43 Taipoka wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:On September 14 2013 22:29 NarutO wrote:
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Yeah the balance surely is ultimatively flawed when a European GM Zerg can go toe to toe with a Korean Code S Terran. Seriously lol is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Yeah, i find it funny how everyone always forgets Sjow, who was knocked out of WCS Qualifiers by toss each time and won Bo3 against Life is irrelevant, when some GM zerg gets a close game against Code A(No guys, being in GSL Ro32 is not being Code S terran, especially if you get knocked out in Ro32) terran. On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:
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is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately Edit: and I agree, great game Because SuperNova is not true Code S terran NOW, but just happened to get in it on the back of his OSL perfomance last season. Bang! Heard it first on TL. Being in GSL Code S 12 times and being in the ongoing Code S tournament DOES NOT... i repeat, does NOT make you a Code S player. Heard it first on TL. robson1 does not understand sarcarsm :D Someone Called Supernova a code A terran and he meant it. it's funny btw. how Code A terran is an insult, seeing as most Code A players could easily be Code S champions with a good run behind them :D not really an insult, just stupid, as supernova is one of the most code s'esiest terran that ever code s'd :D
Not in HotS, i repeat. In WoL i admit, he was one of most consistent players in Code S there were. In HotS... Well, he was in Code B IIRC at start of season 1, got into OSL for season 2, hellbat dropped and scv pulled his way to Ro8 (can't blame him for that) and got thrown out of Ro32 this season by Dear. We shall see next year.
On September 14 2013 22:49 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:46 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 14 2013 22:45 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:43 Taipoka wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:On September 14 2013 22:29 NarutO wrote:
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Yeah the balance surely is ultimatively flawed when a European GM Zerg can go toe to toe with a Korean Code S Terran. Seriously lol is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Yeah, i find it funny how everyone always forgets Sjow, who was knocked out of WCS Qualifiers by toss each time and won Bo3 against Life is irrelevant, when some GM zerg gets a close game against Code A(No guys, being in GSL Ro32 is not being Code S terran, especially if you get knocked out in Ro32) terran. On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:
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is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately Edit: and I agree, great game Because SuperNova is not true Code S terran NOW, but just happened to get in it on the back of his OSL perfomance last season. Bang! Heard it first on TL. Being in GSL Code S 12 times and being in the ongoing Code S tournament DOES NOT... i repeat, does NOT make you a Code S player. Heard it first on TL. robson1 does not understand sarcarsm :D Someone Called Supernova a code A terran and he meant it. it's funny btw. how Code A terran is an insult, seeing as most Code A players could easily be Code S champions with a good run behind them :D It's not an insult. But supernova is easily one of the top 10 main players in Code S, if you only look at how many times they been there. In fact, you might call him the vanguard of code S, since he's always always in it, without ever really competing for the title. If he's not a Code S player, i don't know who earned that title. Consistency is a remarkable quality, that is sadly overlooked a lot.
Did he show consistency in HotS yet? He was in only 2 freaking seasons of OSL/Code S.
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Canada8159 Posts
Flash is making huge mistakes right now
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On September 14 2013 22:48 babobbyj wrote:
are they going to do group stage #3 today as well?
Yes
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Oh, DTs into allin from jeysen, HOW UNEXPECTED-_-
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3 queens! Wtf happened!? xD
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On September 14 2013 22:49 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:47 dreamseller wrote:On September 14 2013 22:46 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 14 2013 22:45 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:43 Taipoka wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:
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is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Yeah, i find it funny how everyone always forgets Sjow, who was knocked out of WCS Qualifiers by toss each time and won Bo3 against Life is irrelevant, when some GM zerg gets a close game against Code A(No guys, being in GSL Ro32 is not being Code S terran, especially if you get knocked out in Ro32) terran. On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:[quote] I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately Edit: and I agree, great game Because SuperNova is not true Code S terran NOW, but just happened to get in it on the back of his OSL perfomance last season. Bang! Heard it first on TL. Being in GSL Code S 12 times and being in the ongoing Code S tournament DOES NOT... i repeat, does NOT make you a Code S player. Heard it first on TL. robson1 does not understand sarcarsm :D Someone Called Supernova a code A terran and he meant it. it's funny btw. how Code A terran is an insult, seeing as most Code A players could easily be Code S champions with a good run behind them :D not really an insult, just stupid, as supernova is one of the most code s'esiest terran that ever code s'd :D Not in HotS, i repeat. In WoL i admit, he was one of most consistent players in Code S there were. In HotS... Well, he was in Code B at start of season 1, got into OSL for season 2, hellbat dropped and scv pulled his way to Ro8 (can't blame him for that) and got thrown out of Ro32 this season by Dear. We shall see next year.
So essentially he played to win and that makes him not-Code S? Or am I missing something?
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Isn't it kind of stupid of Artosis to reveal Dimaga's strategy in the broadcast? Assuming he's not lying, someone listening to the broadcast is obviously going to tell Flash what's coming in game two during the break between games =/
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It turns out that Flash is pretty good. Who would've thunk.
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Why does this never happen in my games? :[
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On September 14 2013 22:50 NarutO wrote:
Oh, DTs into allin from jeysen, HOW UNEXPECTED-_-
I can´t really blame him.
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brilliant play from Grubby
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On September 14 2013 22:48 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:42 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 Msr wrote:On September 14 2013 22:39 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:On September 14 2013 22:29 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:27 ETisME wrote:
have to say, Serral played much better than supernova both game imo Yeah the balance surely is ultimatively flawed when a European GM Zerg can go toe to toe with a Korean Code S Terran. Seriously lol is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately I don't think anyone is saying TvZ is imbalance. o_o Also SPN won 2-0. :d dont bother responding to that guy, he is known as an unskilled player who whines a lot. The zerg played well, but didnt micro consistently enough and supernova just looked like he was having a bad series and caught by surprise at the zerg not being bad. I whine because I say TvZ is fine? lol you were the first one to even mention balance...and call up to the people who complained about TvZ balance no one was talking about TvZ balance in the thread at all. it's just weird how you talked about the game
Saying the player who lost played much better than the player who won is pretty much balancewhine. What else is the cause of losing? A rock from the skies?
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On September 14 2013 22:50 FuRong wrote:
Isn't it kind of stupid of Artosis to reveal Dimaga's strategy in the broadcast? Assuming he's not lying, someone listening to the broadcast is obviously going to tell Flash what's coming in game two during the break between games =/
So who is going to bother to translate the strategy that for Flash and tell him?
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On September 14 2013 22:50 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:49 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:47 dreamseller wrote:On September 14 2013 22:46 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 14 2013 22:45 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:43 Taipoka wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:[quote] I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Yeah, i find it funny how everyone always forgets Sjow, who was knocked out of WCS Qualifiers by toss each time and won Bo3 against Life is irrelevant, when some GM zerg gets a close game against Code A(No guys, being in GSL Ro32 is not being Code S terran, especially if you get knocked out in Ro32) terran. On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:[quote] You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately Edit: and I agree, great game Because SuperNova is not true Code S terran NOW, but just happened to get in it on the back of his OSL perfomance last season. Bang! Heard it first on TL. Being in GSL Code S 12 times and being in the ongoing Code S tournament DOES NOT... i repeat, does NOT make you a Code S player. Heard it first on TL. robson1 does not understand sarcarsm :D Someone Called Supernova a code A terran and he meant it. it's funny btw. how Code A terran is an insult, seeing as most Code A players could easily be Code S champions with a good run behind them :D not really an insult, just stupid, as supernova is one of the most code s'esiest terran that ever code s'd :D Not in HotS, i repeat. In WoL i admit, he was one of most consistent players in Code S there were. In HotS... Well, he was in Code B at start of season 1, got into OSL for season 2, hellbat dropped and scv pulled his way to Ro8 (can't blame him for that) and got thrown out of Ro32 this season by Dear. We shall see next year. So essentially he played to win and that makes him not-Code S? Or am I missing something?
Nah, he simply were not in all 3 seasons of WCS. Hence i consider Flash more code s of a terran, than SuperNova :D
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YUS FINALLY LIFE VS TEFEL STARTED
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On September 14 2013 22:49 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 22:47 dreamseller wrote:On September 14 2013 22:46 Tanzklaue wrote:On September 14 2013 22:45 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:43 Taipoka wrote:On September 14 2013 22:41 robson1 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:37 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:30 ETisME wrote:
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is this the first time you see someone with a lower ranked playing better than a higher ranked player? I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Yeah, i find it funny how everyone always forgets Sjow, who was knocked out of WCS Qualifiers by toss each time and won Bo3 against Life is irrelevant, when some GM zerg gets a close game against Code A(No guys, being in GSL Ro32 is not being Code S terran, especially if you get knocked out in Ro32) terran. On September 14 2013 22:37 NarutO wrote:On September 14 2013 22:35 Swiipii wrote:On September 14 2013 22:32 NarutO wrote:[quote] I will let you know when its the first time I see a relatively unknown GM Terran compete toe to toe in macro games against a Code S Zerg and I think SuperNovA played well. Just because in your head biomine takes no skill and your completely delusional view on the match up, you misjudge the game by a ton. Muta/ling/Bane is very viable, you just also have to be good and as we can see, a seemingly EU player can compete with a code S terran. Hardly a balance issue if you ask me. You mean when Sjow (who didn't do shit since like forever) kicked Life's ass? Koreans don't play their best in foreign tournament. Supernova is playing WAY better in GSL and Sc2 is really volatile. Great game Your point is not valid ! Terran vs Zerg was supposed to be imbalanced so a foreign Terran beat a Korean Zerg was called out for that imbalance. Now it still stands that Terran vs Zerg is imbalanced, but why can a EU grandmaster with the disadvantageous race in ZvT beat a code-S veteran ? Good you brought that up, so I could shoot it down immediately Edit: and I agree, great game Because SuperNova is not true Code S terran NOW, but just happened to get in it on the back of his OSL perfomance last season. Bang! Heard it first on TL. Being in GSL Code S 12 times and being in the ongoing Code S tournament DOES NOT... i repeat, does NOT make you a Code S player. Heard it first on TL. robson1 does not understand sarcarsm :D Someone Called Supernova a code A terran and he meant it. it's funny btw. how Code A terran is an insult, seeing as most Code A players could easily be Code S champions with a good run behind them :D not really an insult, just stupid, as supernova is one of the most code s'esiest terran that ever code s'd :D Not in HotS, i repeat. In WoL i admit, he was one of most consistent players in Code S there were. In HotS... Well, he was in Code B at start of season 1, got into OSL for season 2, hellbat dropped and scv pulled his way to Ro8 (can't blame him for that) and got thrown out of Ro32 this season by Dear. We shall see next year.
So he slashed his way through code B and A(which many players, no matter how accomplished struggle with), directly into Code S. Made it to the round of 8 in the next Season and lost one group stage, which makes him a not Code S terran.
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