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Supter
France382 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:02 Heartland wrote: What undead1993 said. Plus all the reconaissance en force you can do with early drops. Early drops are already too late. Sure, it allows you to know what your opponent is doing. But it's already too late to act about it. | ||
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:03 Supter wrote: Yeah, there is more ways to scout than that. Helions, Banshees, and blind scans. Problem with Hellions is that, if your opponent went for any kind of agression, you lost the game. Banshee can be a good idea, especially with cloak, because you can even the game if your opponent didn't went for an all-in. Blind scans are just bad 7 minutes into the game. Stop talking about them. Banshee builds do terribly against any sort of robo opener too, which is the most common build at the moment it seems | ||
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Germany4057 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:03 Supter wrote: Yeah, there is more ways to scout than that. Helions, Banshees, and blind scans. Problem with Hellions is that, if your opponent went for any kind of agression, you lost the game. Banshee can be a good idea, especially with cloak, because you can even the game if your opponent didn't went for an all-in. Blind scans are just bad 7 minutes into the game. Stop talking about them. wtf is your point, if you want to know whats up, scan if you don't want to scan lose. wtf should the terran be able to see the whole map without even doing something for it, getting ridiculous with these terran guys | ||
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megapants
United States1314 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:02 dreamseller wrote: Nope. Scans miss, scvs die to stalkers patrolling outside the base. anyone can confirm what build polt went for? beyond reaper > reactor > CC, i can't recall what factory or engi-bay timing polt went for. all i know is that polt opted to hole up in his natural against 2 stalkers even though he had a ton of marauders, which makes me think he was trying to hide an aggressive stim timing instead of trying to get a read on first, which is just a mistake in build order. | ||
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Glubschauge
Austria1216 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:05 megapants wrote: anyone can confirm what build polt went for? beyond reaper > reactor > CC, i can't recall what factory or engi-bay timing polt went for. all i know is that polt opted to hole up in his natural against 2 stalkers even though he had a ton of marauders, which makes me think he was trying to hide an aggressive stim timing instead of trying to get a read on first, which is just a mistake in build order. Standard 3 rax Medivacs. | ||
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TOMisAfish
Australia123 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:04 aZealot wrote: Ah, fair enough. Sounds a proper good meal. It's a proper meal for like 7 people, I'm alone haha. I'll be fed for like 3 days with that | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On August 24 2013 18:58 Supter wrote: Problem is, in TvP, if you lose your first reaper, it's pretty much over. You get a few all-in that you can still do, but apart from that, it's over. You cannot leave your base to scout anymore, and the protoss can pretty much do whatever he wants to do. Just look at this game : Polt lose his reaper with a stupid mistakes, First decides to take a 3rd base. What could Polt do ? Can't leave his base, because if First went for a little agression, marines will get caught and the game is lost ; Can't scout with a SCV because there are stalkers on the map ; can't turtle because he lets his opponent get ahead. Only solution is, blindly hard countering your opponent. It sure was a mistake by Polt, and First was really clever, really knew how to use it, but I can't feel anything except disappointment, looking at this serie. TvT and TvZ are the only match-up where you can get back & forth games. In PvT, if either side does a small mistake early on, the game is over. Same for PvP and PvZ. ZvZ isn't that far either. You can't get any more negative than that post lol | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:05 Undead1993 wrote: wtf is your point, if you want to know whats up, scan if you don't want to scan lose. wtf should the terran be able to see the whole map without even doing something for it, getting ridiculous with these terran guys His point was that the loss of the reaper early cost polt the game, this point was in an earlier post not quoted here. I tend to agree, but also this game polt lost even more time coz he saw sentries coming out and freaked out like a noob | ||
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
Sick of finale v naniwa haha | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On August 24 2013 19:07 Arceus wrote: how is Arterdam? Pretty strange combo to me Both of them kick ass individually and kick ass together to  | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
i tried to put it diplomatically, but since you asked: i don't like Naniwa. he's the only active pro player in the entirely sc2 scene i dislike so i will automatically cheer for his opponent no matter who it is. | ||
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