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Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
August 24 2013 10:01 GMT
#581
On August 24 2013 18:59 Doko wrote:
This tournament is looking more and more like a Jaedong vs Rain final that jaedong will manage to throw away in some way our minds can't even beging to comprehend.

agree, looks like a jaedong vs Rain final, which won't be that a great match for viewing pleasure.
glad the dong is back on shape.
then again, what do you know, maybe just maybe Bomber, my man
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 10:02:26
August 24 2013 10:01 GMT
#582
On August 24 2013 18:58 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:54 aZealot wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:48 PanzerElite wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:46 PanzerElite wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:43 PanzerElite wrote:
[quote]

Well, if you don't want to pull with a FE build then you're asking to lose.


You're asking to lose with that attitude. You could also watch players like Polt, Taeja, Innovation, Maru, etc. who do just fine lategame.


Lol, don't you think I haven't tried? I've come to the conclusion it's useless to go to the lategame. Scv pull every toss yolo swag, they deserve it.


Well if you've come to that conclusion it must be true


If Bomber kills First EZ all the time, it must be true. So yh it's true.


w/e

I really hope finale hurries up, I'm really really really hungry

you have time if you go now


I reckon you had time to make it and get it ready by now. But you spent too much time telling us about it.

Why? Why? Why?

Now, it's really a choice between Nani vs DD and starvation.


I thought finale vs Nani would follow right after this so I took the time to complain about my terrible life


But really, how hard can it be to make quick noodles. Don't you have any 2 minute noodles? Hot water and a microwave is all you need.


Well, I need to slice a few things too. Paprika, sausages, cheese, tomatoes and some other stuff. Might post pics later. It's pretty good but takes attention

Slice slice slice

Anyway, gonna do it now and hope finale wins. Need food to be ready when Ro8 starts
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Finganforn
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden77 Posts
August 24 2013 10:01 GMT
#583
Does the winner of this match play Jaedong? Naniwa vs Jaedong quarterfinal is probably too awesome to expect. Their tournament history, Jaedong's sudden great ZvP, there's no way duckdeok will let this happen.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 10:02:28
August 24 2013 10:01 GMT
#584
all i can say now is NA NI WA - NA NI WA ... oh plz !! all good things are 3

On August 24 2013 19:01 Finganforn wrote:
Does the winner of this match play Jaedong? Naniwa vs Jaedong quarterfinal is probably too awesome to expect. Their tournament history, Jaedong's sudden great ZvP, there's no way duckdeok will let this happen.


but jaedong duckdeok also in new time epic history in tournaments !!!
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#585
On August 24 2013 18:59 Undead1993 wrote:
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On August 24 2013 18:58 Supter wrote:
Problem is, in TvP, if you lose your first reaper, it's pretty much over. You get a few all-in that you can still do, but apart from that, it's over. You cannot leave your base to scout anymore, and the protoss can pretty much do whatever he wants to do.

Just look at this game : Polt lose his reaper with a stupid mistakes, First decides to take a 3rd base. What could Polt do ? Can't leave his base, because if First went for a little agression, marines will get caught and the game is lost ; Can't scout with a SCV because there are stalkers on the map ; can't turtle because he lets his opponent get ahead.

Only solution is, blindly hard countering your opponent.
It sure was a mistake by Polt, and First was really clever, really knew how to use it, but I can't feel anything except disappointment, looking at this serie. TvT and TvZ are the only match-up where you can get back & forth games. In PvT, if either side does a small mistake early on, the game is over. Same for PvP and PvZ. ZvZ isn't that far either.

he has scans and scvs send some or scan some.


Nope. Scans miss, scvs die to stalkers patrolling outside the base.
PGtour admin
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#586
On August 24 2013 19:01 dreamseller wrote:
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On August 24 2013 18:59 Heartland wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:58 Supter wrote:
Problem is, in TvP, if you lose your first reaper, it's pretty much over. You get a few all-in that you can still do, but apart from that, it's over. You cannot leave your base to scout anymore, and the protoss can pretty much do whatever he wants to do.

Just look at this game : Polt lose his reaper with a stupid mistakes, First decides to take a 3rd base. What could Polt do ? Can't leave his base, because if First went for a little agression, marines will get caught and the game is lost ; Can't scout with a SCV because there are stalkers on the map ; can't turtle because he lets his opponent get ahead.

Only solution is, blindly hard countering your opponent.
It sure was a mistake by Polt, and First was really clever, really knew how to use it, but I can't feel anything except disappointment, looking at this serie. TvT and TvZ are the only match-up where you can get back & forth games. In PvT, if either side does a small mistake early on, the game is over. Same for PvP and PvZ. ZvZ isn't that far either.


There are more ways to scout than that.


Lke what, assuming you play standard/safe against all ins?

I thought he makes an excellent point.


What undead1993 said. Plus all the reconaissance en force you can do with early drops.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#587
Chobra, the hero we need, and Naniwa, the hero we deserve.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#588
On August 24 2013 19:01 Ambre wrote:
Did RedEye just said Naniwa won 2 times against Duckdoek ? He mixed it up


Nah he said that the WCS EU champion already had won twice against this man, was just a bit weirdly worded.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#589
Whats with all the background noise everywhere, its irritating.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#590
I love that Protoss intro music
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#591
On August 24 2013 19:01 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 18:59 Doko wrote:
This tournament is looking more and more like a Jaedong vs Rain final that jaedong will manage to throw away in some way our minds can't even beging to comprehend.

agree, looks like a jaedong vs Rain final, which won't be that a great match for viewing pleasure.
glad the dong is back on shape.
then again, what do you know, maybe just maybe Bomber, my man



Yeah 'cause yesterday's games from Jjjjaedong weren't fun to watch? Cut the crap bro.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#592
On August 24 2013 19:01 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 18:59 Doko wrote:
This tournament is looking more and more like a Jaedong vs Rain final that jaedong will manage to throw away in some way our minds can't even beging to comprehend.

agree, looks like a jaedong vs Rain final, which won't be that a great match for viewing pleasure.
glad the dong is back on shape.
then again, what do you know, maybe just maybe Bomber, my man


or like the OSL champ who knows. or Taeja. The overall level of play has been really great and pinning down to two clear favorites seems a bit outstrecht.
Zest fanboy.
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#593
Maniwa warming up! Omigawd Nani goooo
Toast and coffe
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 24 2013 10:02 GMT
#594
On August 24 2013 19:02 Ryps wrote:
Whats with all the background noise everywhere, its irritating.


called "people" ^^
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
August 24 2013 10:03 GMT
#595
On August 24 2013 19:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 18:58 aZealot wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:54 aZealot wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:48 PanzerElite wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:46 PanzerElite wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

You're asking to lose with that attitude. You could also watch players like Polt, Taeja, Innovation, Maru, etc. who do just fine lategame.


Lol, don't you think I haven't tried? I've come to the conclusion it's useless to go to the lategame. Scv pull every toss yolo swag, they deserve it.


Well if you've come to that conclusion it must be true


If Bomber kills First EZ all the time, it must be true. So yh it's true.


w/e

I really hope finale hurries up, I'm really really really hungry

you have time if you go now


I reckon you had time to make it and get it ready by now. But you spent too much time telling us about it.

Why? Why? Why?

Now, it's really a choice between Nani vs DD and starvation.


I thought finale vs Nani would follow right after this so I took the time to complain about my terrible life


But really, how hard can it be to make quick noodles. Don't you have any 2 minute noodles? Hot water and a microwave is all you need.


Well, I need to slice a few things too. Paprika, sausages, cheese, tomatoes and some other stuff. Might post pics later. It's pretty good but takes attention

Slice slice slice

Anyway, gonna do it now and hope finale wins. Need food to be ready when Ro8 starts


you got me hungry, now a pic is the least!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 24 2013 10:03 GMT
#596
On August 24 2013 19:02 Pippi wrote:
Maniwa warming up! Omigawd Nani goooo


oh god thats good xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
August 24 2013 10:03 GMT
#597
Yeah, there is more ways to scout than that. Helions, Banshees, and blind scans.
Problem with Hellions is that, if your opponent went for any kind of agression, you lost the game.
Banshee can be a good idea, especially with cloak, because you can even the game if your opponent didn't went for an all-in.
Blind scans are just bad 7 minutes into the game. Stop talking about them.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 24 2013 10:03 GMT
#598
On August 24 2013 19:01 Ambre wrote:
Did RedEye just said Naniwa won 2 times against Duckdoek ? He mixed it up


No, you mixed it up. RedEye said it correctly.
hundred thousand krouner
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 10:04:46
August 24 2013 10:04 GMT
#599
On August 24 2013 19:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 18:58 aZealot wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:54 aZealot wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:48 PanzerElite wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:46 PanzerElite wrote:
On August 24 2013 18:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

You're asking to lose with that attitude. You could also watch players like Polt, Taeja, Innovation, Maru, etc. who do just fine lategame.


Lol, don't you think I haven't tried? I've come to the conclusion it's useless to go to the lategame. Scv pull every toss yolo swag, they deserve it.


Well if you've come to that conclusion it must be true


If Bomber kills First EZ all the time, it must be true. So yh it's true.


w/e

I really hope finale hurries up, I'm really really really hungry

you have time if you go now


I reckon you had time to make it and get it ready by now. But you spent too much time telling us about it.

Why? Why? Why?

Now, it's really a choice between Nani vs DD and starvation.


I thought finale vs Nani would follow right after this so I took the time to complain about my terrible life


But really, how hard can it be to make quick noodles. Don't you have any 2 minute noodles? Hot water and a microwave is all you need.


Well, I need to slice a few things too. Paprika, sausages, cheese, tomatoes and some other stuff. Might post pics later. It's pretty good but takes attention

Slice slice slice

Anyway, gonna do it now and hope finale wins. Need food to be ready when Ro8 starts


Ah, fair enough. Sounds a proper good meal.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 24 2013 10:04 GMT
#600
On August 24 2013 19:03 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 19:01 Ambre wrote:
Did RedEye just said Naniwa won 2 times against Duckdoek ? He mixed it up


No, you mixed it up. RedEye said it correctly.


yep you was wrong ^^ redeye said overcome his 2 time lose or something like that but he said it correct
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
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