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i hope jaedong wins super fast, i really want to see scarlett vs bomber before going to sleep ;_;
oh god i forgot about taeja vs rain. no sleep for awhile i guess 
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On August 24 2013 23:03 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 22:59 Sated wrote:On August 24 2013 22:55 hipo wrote:On August 24 2013 22:54 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Who is rooting for Jaedong?  Everyone? Jaekong or worse needs to happen again. Jaedong will dance on that dead sheep after he beats Naniwa and the rest. ![[image loading]](http://defiler.ru/chat/smiles-hidden/jae4.gif)
Whoah he is wearing the sheep as gloves. :o
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On August 24 2013 23:02 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 23:00 NarutO wrote:On August 24 2013 22:59 Undead1993 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:55 NarutO wrote:On August 24 2013 22:54 DJHelium wrote:On August 24 2013 22:53 TheDwf wrote:On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base. Maybe because he had nothing to defend? SCVs don't do that well against upgraded Zealots. What can a terran player do then? Like produce a ton of turrets? That is one of the often voiced complains with Terran. We have no supply-less defence that is actually worth getting. In lategame zealot/dt runbys or warpins don't care about the planetary, they still kill your economy or make you run. Not to mention you cannot get planetaries everywhere and if your economy runs, it can also go down. All other races have supply-less defence. you have less worker supply though (because of the mule) therefore you can hvae more units, so you can leave 4 rines in a bunker. 4 marines in a bunker don't defend shit in lategame. And we have less workers, because our army is neither cost nor supply efficient. We need to have as much mainarmy together as possible. rines in a bunker do defend harassment quite well when you repair the bunker. "don't defend shit" is quite an exaggeration, don't you think so?
Against 3 or 4 zealots, maybe repair works.
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On August 24 2013 23:04 pms wrote:
Why these breaks? Is this on Swedish TV or Korean TV, or what?
To let the next players prepare?
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On August 24 2013 23:04 pms wrote:
Why these breaks? Is this on Swedish TV or Korean TV, or what?
Players/casters need to swap around, they are pretty short.
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op should be updated, the timetable doesnt fit nor does the players who play each other.
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On August 24 2013 23:00 Exarl25 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 22:58 TheDwf wrote:On August 24 2013 22:56 Exarl25 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:55 TheDwf wrote:On August 24 2013 22:53 Exarl25 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:52 Raambo11 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base. When your maxed as terran you can't defend until you lose supply if your army is on the other side of the map. Either that or wait for a production cycle and take damage meanwhile. If the Protoss is dedicating supply to harassment then the Terran must dedicate supply to defense. Splitting your army is so hard? And people complain about deathballs. Both armies don't have the same supply-efficiency at all; park 20 army supply to defend Zealots raids and suddenly your core army melts so badly. Bunkers + repair vastly improves the supply efficiency of the Terran defense. Zealots barely care about Bunkers, see how First could easily break aLive's bunker in the Whirlwind game. Protoss can commit much more supply to harassment than Terran can to defend because of defensive Storms. I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Well positioned Bunkers will have very little surface area for the Zealots to attack. Marines rip through them. First barely had any supply committed to that harassment. If you see the post game analysis right now it was like 3 Zealots that completely shut down mining at the 3rd. Alive's defense just wasn't up to par.
not to mention you can just build a PF to wall of your ramps, just insane that he never did it in even one game
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Wow, this sounds like some kind of awesome doom metal O_O
Anyone knows what song was it?
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Time for Naniwa to chop Jaedong up!
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On August 24 2013 23:02 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 23:00 NarutO wrote:On August 24 2013 22:59 Undead1993 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:55 NarutO wrote:On August 24 2013 22:54 DJHelium wrote:On August 24 2013 22:53 TheDwf wrote:On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base. Maybe because he had nothing to defend? SCVs don't do that well against upgraded Zealots. What can a terran player do then? Like produce a ton of turrets? That is one of the often voiced complains with Terran. We have no supply-less defence that is actually worth getting. In lategame zealot/dt runbys or warpins don't care about the planetary, they still kill your economy or make you run. Not to mention you cannot get planetaries everywhere and if your economy runs, it can also go down. All other races have supply-less defence. you have less worker supply though (because of the mule) therefore you can hvae more units, so you can leave 4 rines in a bunker. 4 marines in a bunker don't defend shit in lategame. And we have less workers, because our army is neither cost nor supply efficient. We need to have as much mainarmy together as possible. rines in a bunker do defend harassment quite well when you repair the bunker. "don't defend shit" is quite an exaggeration, don't you think so?
First of all you would actualy react perfectly, because a bunker that is surrounded is down in less than the amount of time needed to reach that bunker to repair, secondly if its well positioned zealots can still hold position. If DTs are warped in in addition, you cannot counter-repair. As said and seen in tons of games, its a huge concern for Terran.
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Sorry JD but you're going down. 
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On August 24 2013 23:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 23:00 Dodgin wrote:On August 24 2013 22:58 Waxangel wrote:
Naniwa please win check pm so i can pass out How in the hell are you awake
passion
and ff14
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least interesting matchup of ro8 inc
i still kinda care though. Jaedong fighting i guess.
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plz naniwa win and kick eg out of tourney. thx.
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Naniwas hair is so blonde in that picture
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I remember Naniwa DH interview before the match against JD, he said that he never wins against JD in practice. Still Naniwa has a better head to head record in tournaments.
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On August 24 2013 23:05 Conut wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 23:00 Exarl25 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:58 TheDwf wrote:On August 24 2013 22:56 Exarl25 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:55 TheDwf wrote:On August 24 2013 22:53 Exarl25 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:52 Raambo11 wrote:On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base. When your maxed as terran you can't defend until you lose supply if your army is on the other side of the map. Either that or wait for a production cycle and take damage meanwhile. If the Protoss is dedicating supply to harassment then the Terran must dedicate supply to defense. Splitting your army is so hard? And people complain about deathballs. Both armies don't have the same supply-efficiency at all; park 20 army supply to defend Zealots raids and suddenly your core army melts so badly. Bunkers + repair vastly improves the supply efficiency of the Terran defense. Zealots barely care about Bunkers, see how First could easily break aLive's bunker in the Whirlwind game. Protoss can commit much more supply to harassment than Terran can to defend because of defensive Storms. I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Well positioned Bunkers will have very little surface area for the Zealots to attack. Marines rip through them. First barely had any supply committed to that harassment. If you see the post game analysis right now it was like 3 Zealots that completely shut down mining at the 3rd. Alive's defense just wasn't up to par. not to mention you can just build a PF to wall of your ramps, just insane that he never did it in even one game
Hardly matters when all your production's gone because of a warp prism in the main.
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there is only two things that i wish for this tournament
it is either:
naniwa winning the whole damn thing !
OR
JD getting the second place .. nothing gets better than this !
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EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SjCYG1Z.png)
