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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#2681
First's PvT abuses every single advantage Protoss has
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1420 Posts
August 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#2682
On August 24 2013 22:58 Waxangel wrote:
Naniwa please win

foreigner vs foreigner finale pls.

or zvz finals :D
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#2683
3-2 to Naniwa
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2684
PROFESSOR ToD :D
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2685
On August 24 2013 22:52 Fody03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:52 Raambo11 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.


When your maxed as terran you can't defend until you lose supply if your army is on the other side of the map. Either that or wait for a production cycle and take damage meanwhile.


or just build turrets


It really helps vs Zelots.... U can warp in Units with ur Warp prism in the middle of the map then zelotes walk a little and finally laugh at ur turrets while killing scvs.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2686
On August 24 2013 22:58 Waxangel wrote:
Naniwa please win


i support that request
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 13:59:47
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2687
--- Nuked ---
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2688
ToD's analysis has so much emotion

10/10
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2689
I must say that's the first time I've ever given a fuck about the analysis touch screen station. Well done Tod.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2690
On August 24 2013 22:58 Waxangel wrote:
Naniwa please win

If Naniwa wins here, Jaedong can't come second.
Long live the King of Wings
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2691
it's going to be a 3 toss semifinals...heard it here first...because toss is borderline UP at the moment
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2692
On August 24 2013 22:56 Dark.Carnival wrote:
First tried hard to lose that series, was hard to watch at times ;_; I hope Jaedong doesn't do his zvp super throws and just rolls naniwa for a quick n easy victory :3

Triple 6 pool incoming!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 13:59:44
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2693
On August 24 2013 22:55 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:54 DJHelium wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:53 TheDwf wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.

Maybe because he had nothing to defend? SCVs don't do that well against upgraded Zealots.


What can a terran player do then? Like produce a ton of turrets?


That is one of the often voiced complains with Terran. We have no supply-less defence that is actually worth getting. In lategame zealot/dt runbys or warpins don't care about the planetary, they still kill your economy or make you run. Not to mention you cannot get planetaries everywhere and if your economy runs, it can also go down.

All other races have supply-less defence.


I find this very interesting. I also feel that it's very hard for terran to micro against the zealots, and they get so cost effective when the marine/marauder isn't kiting. If you stop focusing on your main army, you will get stormd.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2694
On August 24 2013 22:57 Keeemy wrote:
JD gonna win 3-0 EZ.

I am so rooting for either Scarlet or Naniwa in the finals. Obviously because I like seeing a non-Korean there.

But more important to see so many tears on TL by all the people who always need to make an excuse when a non-Korean beats a Korean. Either it is lag, or jetlag, or a too long network cable, never because they were outplayed. Then add all the people who already tell they will quit (watching) SC2 when a korean loses from a non-Korean in WCS EU, and it must be magnificent when we get a non-Korean in the finals here.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2695
On August 24 2013 22:55 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:54 DJHelium wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:53 TheDwf wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.

Maybe because he had nothing to defend? SCVs don't do that well against upgraded Zealots.


What can a terran player do then? Like produce a ton of turrets?


That is one of the often voiced complains with Terran. We have no supply-less defence that is actually worth getting. In lategame zealot/dt runbys or warpins don't care about the planetary, they still kill your economy or make you run. Not to mention you cannot get planetaries everywhere and if your economy runs, it can also go down.

All other races have supply-less defence.

you have less worker supply though (because of the mule) therefore you can hvae more units, so you can leave 4 rines in a bunker.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2696
On August 24 2013 22:59 Lorning wrote:
ToD's analysis has so much emotion

10/10


But so little depth. He just casted the events, without any analysis.
월요 날 재미있
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
August 24 2013 13:59 GMT
#2697
On August 24 2013 22:55 Fody03 wrote:
Quick recap: JD and Naniwa met at DH and? and both times Naniwa won right?


MLG - JD 0-2 Naniwa
DH - JD 1-2 Naniwa
MLG-PL-thing JD 1-1 Naniwa

That's their whole history together
Cute
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 24 2013 14:00 GMT
#2698
Go Jaedong!!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
August 24 2013 14:00 GMT
#2699
On August 24 2013 22:58 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 22:56 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:55 TheDwf wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:53 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:52 Raambo11 wrote:
On August 24 2013 22:48 Swisslink wrote:
aLive's multitasking just completely fell apart. It wasn't only the storms but also the fact that aLive did absolutely nothing to defend in his base.


When your maxed as terran you can't defend until you lose supply if your army is on the other side of the map. Either that or wait for a production cycle and take damage meanwhile.


If the Protoss is dedicating supply to harassment then the Terran must dedicate supply to defense. Splitting your army is so hard? And people complain about deathballs.

Both armies don't have the same supply-efficiency at all; park 20 army supply to defend Zealots raids and suddenly your core army melts so badly.


Bunkers + repair vastly improves the supply efficiency of the Terran defense.

Zealots barely care about Bunkers, see how First could easily break aLive's bunker in the Whirlwind game. Protoss can commit much more supply to harassment than Terran can to defend because of defensive Storms.


He broke the bunkers after 2 tries... and used about 1600 minerals in the process.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 24 2013 14:00 GMT
#2700
On August 24 2013 22:58 Waxangel wrote:
Naniwa please win


check pm so i can pass out
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