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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10080 Posts
August 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#401
productin tab plz
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#402
On August 08 2013 08:56 Larkin wrote:
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On August 08 2013 08:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
What would happen if creep could deny FFs? Or is that just completely screwing up an entire matchup by not allowing Protoss to gain positional advantage while attacking?


Haha it would be completely broken, Protoss could never do anything... a Protoss attack without FFs will never win because surrounds. Plus aggro creep strats would be even stronger.

My idea would be to make FFs have hit points, so they could be destroyed by attacking them.

That's a good idea, I was talking about it to a friend some time ago but realized that I could never make it a real post on TL or BNet forums since I'm such a bad player that FF balance couldn't affect me in the slightest.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#403
hatch hatch pool vs gateway first.

umm
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#404
4minutes, 3 bases for Scarlett.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#405
On August 08 2013 08:53 c0ldfusion wrote:
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On August 08 2013 08:52 blinken wrote:
I play toss and I think that strat is fucking trash.


It's really actually with not that much risk.

There's no reason you cant turn around if you get scouted, zerg don't generally have enough anti air to take out the warp prism in that stage of the game.
PviLLe3
Profile Joined January 2012
United States305 Posts
August 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#406
On August 08 2013 08:56 Yorbon wrote:
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On August 08 2013 08:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:55 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Tsubbi wrote:
this strat is one the same level as 3 pylon blocks in my book, need new kind of rocks imho to fix it

It'd be nice if uprooted structures could count as massive units.



lol what, a massive hatchery unit, dont know about that
I think he was talking about spines and spores. Could be wrong though.


yah i know he was, which are buildable with hatch tech would almost kill all early toss pressure
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 23:59:06
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#407
On August 08 2013 08:56 Swisslink wrote:
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On August 08 2013 08:54 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Swisslink wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:52 Undead1993 wrote:
macsed making it look like he is playing in masters and his opponents are low diamond. this seems on a whole other level


wat?
Scarlett missed the Warprism and if you do, it's just an instant loss against this build :/
Afterwards the dmg was done and the follow up attack was a certain success.

that's kind of what i said. it seems pretty easy for him


It'd seem pretty easy too, if a Diamond Protoss played against a High Master Zerg and the Zerg player somehow missed the Warpprism. It was just terribly unlucky for Scarlett, tbh.

well if you don't have your units in position to scout this, it's a mistake and has not really what to do with luck.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#408
On August 08 2013 08:57 Paljas wrote:
hatch hatch pool vs gateway first.

umm

What'd I say about crazy stuff?
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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#409
On August 08 2013 08:56 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 08:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:55 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Tsubbi wrote:
this strat is one the same level as 3 pylon blocks in my book, need new kind of rocks imho to fix it

It'd be nice if uprooted structures could count as massive units.



lol what, a massive hatchery unit, dont know about that
I think he was talking about spines and spores. Could be wrong though.


Yes, he was saying that there shouldn't be a massive unit at hatchery tech (although he didn't say why).
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#410
On August 08 2013 08:56 Yorbon wrote:
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On August 08 2013 08:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:55 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Tsubbi wrote:
this strat is one the same level as 3 pylon blocks in my book, need new kind of rocks imho to fix it

It'd be nice if uprooted structures could count as massive units.



lol what, a massive hatchery unit, dont know about that
I think he was talking about spines and spores. Could be wrong though.

Yes spines/spores. They move too slow to be used in any early offensive move (Nestea's build withstanding), and there's an opportunity cost to getting them (as opposed to allowing something like creep or queens to break FFs).
b0ub0u
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada445 Posts
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#411
omg lol they missed the hatch hatch pool
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#412
On August 08 2013 08:57 Paljas wrote:
hatch hatch pool vs gateway first.

umm


It's a great counter! The bad thing about 2 hatch before pool is when the protoss player goes for a forge, because he can cannon the nat/third uncontested.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 23:58 GMT
#413
Looks like the Brotoss player will go for an aggro build.
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
August 07 2013 23:59 GMT
#414
On August 08 2013 08:56 garbanzo wrote:
Scarlett (bottom right) vs. Macsed (top left) on Akilon Wastes. Same openings for both (hatch first vs. gateway with 2 assimilators).

Scarlett gets an early third, I think it was triple hatch before pool despite what Gretorp says. Macsed gets his natural, 3 gateways, and techs to stargate.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Panozen
Profile Joined August 2013
248 Posts
August 07 2013 23:59 GMT
#415
On August 08 2013 08:56 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 08:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:55 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Tsubbi wrote:
this strat is one the same level as 3 pylon blocks in my book, need new kind of rocks imho to fix it

It'd be nice if uprooted structures could count as massive units.



lol what, a massive hatchery unit, dont know about that
I think he was talking about spines and spores. Could be wrong though.

Dumb idea, so all the roach/hydra armies will march with uprooted spores and not get forcefielded? win every engagement
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2953 Posts
August 07 2013 23:59 GMT
#416
On August 08 2013 08:58 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 08:56 Swisslink wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:54 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Swisslink wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:52 Undead1993 wrote:
macsed making it look like he is playing in masters and his opponents are low diamond. this seems on a whole other level


wat?
Scarlett missed the Warprism and if you do, it's just an instant loss against this build :/
Afterwards the dmg was done and the follow up attack was a certain success.

that's kind of what i said. it seems pretty easy for him


It'd seem pretty easy too, if a Diamond Protoss played against a High Master Zerg and the Zerg player somehow missed the Warpprism. It was just terribly unlucky for Scarlett, tbh.

well if you have your units not in position to scout this, it's a mistakes and has not really what to do with luck.


She missed the Warprism because of a few millimeters several times - that's just unlucky.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
August 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#417
On August 08 2013 08:59 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 08:56 garbanzo wrote:
Scarlett (bottom right) vs. Macsed (top left) on Akilon Wastes. Same openings for both (hatch first vs. gateway with 2 assimilators).

Scarlett gets an early third, I think it was triple hatch before pool despite what Gretorp says. Macsed gets his natural, 3 gateways, and techs to stargate.

Scarlett gets a roach warren and zergling speed. Macsed makes phoenices with the stargate and uses it to clear up overlords around his base.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
PviLLe3
Profile Joined January 2012
United States305 Posts
August 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#418
On August 08 2013 08:59 Panozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 08:56 Yorbon wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:56 PviLLe3 wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:55 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 08 2013 08:53 Tsubbi wrote:
this strat is one the same level as 3 pylon blocks in my book, need new kind of rocks imho to fix it

It'd be nice if uprooted structures could count as massive units.



lol what, a massive hatchery unit, dont know about that
I think he was talking about spines and spores. Could be wrong though.

Dumb idea, so all the roach/hydra armies will march with uprooted spores and not get forcefielded? win every engagement



this, or the fastest 2 base lair , drop creep outside base, build 2 crawlers, do a massive roach allin , break FFs, GG
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#419
That was smart. MacSed kills the scouting Ovie and then throws down another two gateways behind it.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 00:00 GMT
#420
But then gets his own Sentry trapped by lings. Carelessness or a tipoff? We'll see.
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