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AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1581
On August 08 2013 03:51 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:51 AxiR wrote:
I'm so sick of people complaining about too many tosses. Last season we had 2 in the ro8.


1

Woops.

Well, that makes the whiners even more hypocritical.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1582
On August 08 2013 03:49 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Ah, maximum 1 Terran in Ro8. Back to where Blizzard wants it.


Zerg would like to trade np.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1583
On August 08 2013 03:51 AxiR wrote:
I'm so sick of people complaining about too many tosses. Last season we had 2 in the ro8.

That sounds more fair than having 5 protos there...
AstroPegnuin
Profile Joined November 2012
293 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1584
getting sick of Terrans elitist attitude that their race is the only race that requires skill, they think they are some sort of hero for playing against all the odds by choosing Terran or something

so easy to be ignorant and say Protoss is just a moving (far from the case), but I guess when people see pro players of their race lose it helps give them an excuse for their own losses rather than taking accountability
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1585
Why apollo, why? Why does you give a proper analysis of the fight, showing exactly WHY naniwa won the fight, when all we wanna do is whine; STORMS IMBA!

Either way, awesome plays by naniwa in a super tense game. He seems so much more harmonical nowadays, guess that's the difference from before.
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1586
On August 08 2013 03:53 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:50 boxerfred wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 Noonius wrote:
Analysis by Apollo: be behind, get storm, turtle, win



Basically, MMA threw it. It wasn't about any game imbalance. Get it, please.


Basically, toss was always the comeback race and it shines through this game. So stop calling throws as a competent toss can play from behind, and Naniwa looked pretty competent today.


Toss is the comeback race?
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
August 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#1587
I totally forgot how terrible these LR threads can be.

Please stop terrans, MMA threw the game.
Vir prudens non contra ventum mingit
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1588
Those tickets sell really slow it seems. There's like maybe 25 people in the croud, and still not sold out :-/. Come on germany!
Neosteel Enthusiast
Vertigro
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom261 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1589
sigh.. sometimes you can't help having a huge amount of one race advance >< annoying, but credit to EU protosses who, evidently, have prepared and succeeded in WCS this season
"..." - Greg 'IdrA' Fields +++ DeMuslim, Naniwa, Jaedong, Hero, Suppy! <3 <3
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:54:59
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1590
I'm not a fan of so many P's in the ro8 but MMA didn't play well. He stayed on 1 starport forever and flew his viking in every single storm. But you can see he tried to harass but it's so hard nowadays with msc defense
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1591
On August 08 2013 03:52 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:48 Noonius wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:45 Bahajinbo wrote:
6 Protoss. WTF. At least I can learn something about PvP. It seems that Protoss doesn't need the sad zealot fanclub anymore.



You'll learn that colossus lazer shows are boring and you'll never want to see another hots pvp again

Every time someone says PvP is boring I feel obligated to tell them to watch this

One game does not a good matchup make.

Well, it just seems like a lot of people complaining about the matchup actually have no idea how it's currently looking. It's not the most amazing matchup but some of the complaints are just pure hyperboles.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1592
gj nani!
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1593
On August 08 2013 03:50 ntssauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:48 Daralii wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:47 ntssauce wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:44 Salteador Neo wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:43 LittleRedBoy wrote:
A protoss on 3 base is defending against a terran on 4 base with 3/3 upgrades? What the heck?


TBH the storms were MUCH better placed than the EMPs.


if you hold something like this with only one spell it's just like fungal in end of wol and should not be possible and is potentially game breaking

A game's easily over for toss if an EMP hits templars and/or sentries, does that mean EMP is game breaking?


no because it doesn't kill your units basically. it drains the energy ( your HTs are reusable , turned into archons... dead marines and marodeurs are not reusable! ) and doesn't even drain all shields.


also you rarely see all templars being drained of energy, usually even if most are hit, protoss will still have a couple of storms.. so you can eat some EMPs, but you cant really eat any storms.. at least against army that also has colossus and chargelots and archons in it.

Even if it is not imbalanced, late game is so unfrogiving because even if you are ahead on supply, upgrades and have all units you need, you still need to engage perfectly to win..

protoss dictates the tech so you always hear "not enough medivacs, vikings, ghosts, behind on upgrades, bad storm dodging" etc.

it just shows how many things you need to worry about to win that fight, even when ahead on supply and upgrades.

LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1594
On August 08 2013 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:48 Noonius wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:45 Bahajinbo wrote:
6 Protoss. WTF. At least I can learn something about PvP. It seems that Protoss doesn't need the sad zealot fanclub anymore.



You'll learn that colossus lazer shows are boring and you'll never want to see another hots pvp again

Every time someone says PvP is boring I feel obligated to tell them to watch this



It was a typical turtly hasuobs game, he had a similar vs Thorazin in hoestory cup

I prsonally found it long and tedious
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1595
On August 08 2013 03:51 Yonnua wrote:
Was Naniwa harassing all through that second game? If not, how did MMA drop down to 34 workers so quickly? He certainly didn't sacrifice them at any point, so I feel like Nani must have been harassing with dts (he did the storm drop later but MMA had already lost tons of workers by then).


If you watched his supply he always kept it below 200 before the final engagement because he was constantly running zealots/dt's by and picking off scv's.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1596
MMA's TvP was bad in his prime but now its facepalm worthy. That game was orders of magnitude worst then Jaedong's ZvP or JYP's PvT.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1597
maybe MMA lost because he didn't pull scvs. The first attack on the 3rd would have been overwhelmingly in favour of MMA if he had pulled his scvs too, even accounting for the horrible positioning.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 18:54 GMT
#1598
On August 08 2013 03:53 PerryHooter wrote:
Why apollo, why? Why does you give a proper analysis of the fight, showing exactly WHY naniwa won the fight, when all we wanna do is whine; STORMS IMBA!

Either way, awesome plays by naniwa in a super tense game. He seems so much more harmonical nowadays, guess that's the difference from before.

If that was tense, than you were watching somewhere else, sir.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 07 2013 18:55 GMT
#1599
On August 08 2013 03:48 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:45 Bahajinbo wrote:
6 Protoss. WTF. At least I can learn something about PvP. It seems that Protoss doesn't need the sad zealot fanclub anymore.



You'll learn that colossus lazer shows are boring and you'll never want to see another hots pvp again


good joke . maybe when 4 tempests will not 1 shot colossus anymore . pvp changed a lot .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
August 07 2013 18:55 GMT
#1600
On August 08 2013 03:53 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:51 AxiR wrote:
I'm so sick of people complaining about too many tosses. Last season we had 2 in the ro8.

That sounds more fair than having 5 protos there...

Shit happens. Players play well and advance. And sometimes more toss players play well than others, sometimes there is a 3 toss group. A high number of toss in one tournement doesn't show anything in terms of balance
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