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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:54 LastLordofCastamere wrote: It was a typical turtly hasuobs game, he had a similar vs Thorazin in hoestory cup I prsonally found it long and tedious Do not talk about that game, please. T.T | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:50 AstroPegnuin wrote: I love how people are crying because Protoss is doing well for once in all of it's history, some things never change I guess By far the least successful race throughout the entirety of SC2 yet always the most complained about, the first to get shit on. No matter what playstyle is tried. If Naniwa won this with 1 base all-ins Protoss is a cheesy race. If he won it by defending 1 base all-ins MSC is overpowered. If he did a 2 base timing Protoss is gimmicky. He defends on 3 bases and Protoss is a no skill turtle race. The race just can't catch a break. | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:52 SlixSC wrote: 2 is the right amount out of 8. 6+ is (way) too many. Well to be honest people should not complain yet, there have been extremely few points in SC2 were protoss have dominated. They were the least successful race in professional WoL and is still so far over all in HotS. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11075 Posts
2 Toss in the quarters on par with 2 zergs and 4 people cursed with the race that can't compete. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Korea_OSL/Premier I dont know how you watch each of the Ro16 groups and complain. Everyone who got through clearly deserved it over their opponents. Then we had last WCS where there were no toss in europe. Whatever. SC2 is what sc2 is. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:51 Yonnua wrote: Was Naniwa harassing all through that second game? If not, how did MMA drop down to 34 workers so quickly? He certainly didn't sacrifice them at any point, so I feel like Nani must have been harassing with dts (he did the storm drop later but MMA had already lost tons of workers by then). Yeah, I think Adibesi uncharacteristically missed a few things that would've better explained what happened that game. | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:54 gobbledydook wrote: maybe MMA lost because he didn't pull scvs. The first attack on the 3rd would have been overwhelmingly in favour of MMA if he had pulled his scvs too, even accounting for the horrible positioning. You don't pull SCVs against storm. You pull SCVs after the storms, after you got rid of some AoE. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
In TvP storm could always turn things around.. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:55 DarkLordOlli wrote: It's alright, finale will win this. There will be no complaints about storm or lategame protoss. Finale will make terrans cry about the good old 4gate. Or DT rush. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
Yes, you could have seen it yesterday when Lucifron was rampaging duckdeoks main in their G3 and today again in the Nani vs MMA we just watched. | ||
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AxiR
Germany944 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:54 gobbledydook wrote: maybe MMA lost because he didn't pull scvs. The first attack on the 3rd would have been overwhelmingly in favour of MMA if he had pulled his scvs too, even accounting for the horrible positioning. Nah. Scv timings don't work against storm, with no ghosts | ||
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TiberiusAk
United States122 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:50 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Might happen that we won't have a single Zerg player playing at the WCS Season 2 Global Finals. It'd be hilariously glorious if Jaedong was the only zerg that made it to the season finals, and then won the whole thing. But then again...JvP? Edit: On topic: Sick defenses by naniwa! | ||
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d00p
711 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:53 AxiR wrote: Woops. Well, that makes the whiners even more hypocritical. They are not whiners ffs! It's a bad viewing experience with only PvP is all it is. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:56 TiberiusAk wrote: It'd be hilariously glorious if Jaedong was the only zerg that made it to the season finals, and then won the whole thing. But then again...JvP? Yeah I feel as if that'd be his downfall. But on the other hand at least he'd only have to practice one matchup! | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:55 Exarl25 wrote: By far the least successful race throughout the entirety of SC2 yet always the most complained about, the first to get shit on. No matter what playstyle is tried. If Naniwa won this with 1 base all-ins Protoss is a cheesy race. If he won it by defending 1 base all-ins MSC is overpowered. If he did a 2 base timing Protoss is gimmicky. He defends on 3 bases and Protoss is a no skill turtle race. The race just can't catch a break. I think you just identified the problem with Protoss. All-in's and turtles. There's not much middle ground, which is why P games aren't very fun to watch (for me anyway). | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
currently 2 terrans 1 protoss 1 zerg in WCS America ro8. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:55 Qwerty85 wrote: In TvP storm could always turn things around.. If MMA had micro'ed at all from the storms he'd have won. Storm turns things around when you sit in it. I'm also not sure why everyone is talking about the storms because after the hold at Naniwa's third, MMA never replenished vikings in significant numbers. Colossus probably did more damage through out the game overall than the storms did. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:56 scypio wrote: Yes, you could have seen it yesterday when Lucifron was rampaging duckdeoks main in their G3 and today again in the Nani vs MMA we just watched. Or when Mvp played protoss against Innovation and Tefel. Or when Taeja played protoss against Hyun at ASUS ROG If you're wondering why Lucifron lost to finale, it's because finale was never behind in that game. He held because Lucifron was killing the probes he had plenty of while his army was doing damage. That wasn't a comeback, it was finale being smart as hell, using his probes to protect his army at all costs and Lucifron not microing well. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On August 08 2013 03:53 scypio wrote: Basically, toss was always the comeback race and it shines through this game. So stop calling throws as a competent toss can play from behind, and Naniwa looked pretty competent today. Hm, I'm kind of agreeing to this due to the sick potential of high templars. One or two sick storms can make a 20 supply difference, yep. But you have to agree that the point when MMA engaged first time into Naniwas 3rd, he threw his 30-supply-advantage(!) away by missmicro clumping (as well of vikings as of the bio that came from the left side). I'm not saying Naniwa played bad (though these 2 widow mine shots could've been dodged). I'm just saying that MMA had a huge advantage - and threw it away. With smaller mistakes later, eg. several time ghosts just died without setting off good EMPs or snipes, Naniwa was able to win the game. | ||
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