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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 07 2013 18:57 GMT
#1621
On August 08 2013 03:53 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:50 boxerfred wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 Noonius wrote:
Analysis by Apollo: be behind, get storm, turtle, win



Basically, MMA threw it. It wasn't about any game imbalance. Get it, please.


Basically, toss was always the comeback race and it shines through this game. So stop calling throws as a competent toss can play from behind, and Naniwa looked pretty competent today.

Basically, MMA threw that game away about five times. It's weird for you people to think that any loss to protoss is not linked to imbalance, but, low and behold it's possible.
It appears I have been chosen.
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1622
On August 08 2013 03:56 d00p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:53 AxiR wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 NovaMB wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 AxiR wrote:
I'm so sick of people complaining about too many tosses. Last season we had 2 in the ro8.


1

Woops.

Well, that makes the whiners even more hypocritical.


They are not whiners ffs! It's a bad viewing experience with only PvP is all it is.

Thats an other complaint, I am talking about the "TOSS IS IMBA" people.
Not liking PvP is a totaly legit complaint of course.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1623
The only toss I cheer for is Naniwa but guys I honestly think that its ok if protoss would totaly dominate the scen for a few months. The poor bastards have suffered so much through the years ^^
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1624
On August 08 2013 03:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:56 scypio wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:53 Heartland wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:53 scypio wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 boxerfred wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 Noonius wrote:
Analysis by Apollo: be behind, get storm, turtle, win



Basically, MMA threw it. It wasn't about any game imbalance. Get it, please.


Basically, toss was always the comeback race and it shines through this game. So stop calling throws as a competent toss can play from behind, and Naniwa looked pretty competent today.


Toss is the comeback race?


Yes, you could have seen it yesterday when Lucifron was rampaging duckdeoks main in their G3 and today again in the Nani vs MMA we just watched.


Or when Mvp played protoss against Innovation and Tefel. Or when Taeja played protoss against Hyun at ASUS ROG

I wanna watch that game now... are the VODS up somewhere?
kiss kiss fall in love
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1625
On August 08 2013 03:56 d00p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:53 AxiR wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 NovaMB wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 AxiR wrote:
I'm so sick of people complaining about too many tosses. Last season we had 2 in the ro8.


1

Woops.

Well, that makes the whiners even more hypocritical.


They are not whiners ffs! It's a bad viewing experience with only PvP is all it is.

But then we will have higher chances for Rain to win something if he fails this weekend.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 19:01:23
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1626
On August 08 2013 03:50 AgentW wrote:
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On August 08 2013 03:50 opterown wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:48 Fusilero wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:47 AgentW wrote:
Anyone remember this?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Finals

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

We've seen this before.

Remember when creator was relevant? Wasn't that fun.

T_T

Called it!

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:49 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:48 Fusilero wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:47 AgentW wrote:
Anyone remember this?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Finals

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

We've seen this before.

Remember when creator was relevant? Wasn't that fun.

Somewhere in Australia opterown just screamed out in pain.



Haha excellent call!
Edit: also, all y'all balance whiners need to take the next two weeks to play random or offrace nonstop. MMA made really bad decisions with his army in the midgame and it let Naniwa catch up, and from there it was great micro and multitasking vs no micro and multitasking. Terran have turbovacs, MMA has no excuse for not doing any more drops in the late-mid game after he sniped the robo that one time
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1627
Starcraft II: Heart of the Storm
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1628
On August 08 2013 03:55 Sabu113 wrote:
Should just slap everyone here complaining about the Protoss in the WCS EU and KR. Rain was the only toss in the top 4.

2 Toss in the quarters on par with 2 zergs and 4 people cursed with the race that can't compete.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Korea_OSL/Premier

I dont know how you watch each of the Ro16 groups and complain. Everyone who got through clearly deserved it over their opponents. Then we had last WCS where there were no toss in europe. Whatever. SC2 is what sc2 is.


Maybe, but most of it was played prepatch.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:59:19
August 07 2013 18:58 GMT
#1629
On August 08 2013 03:58 Fjodorov wrote:
The only toss I cheer for is Naniwa but guys I honestly think that its ok if protoss would totaly dominate the scen for a few months. The poor bastards have suffered so much through the years ^^

I honestly wouldn't enjoy watching tons and tons of PvP though.

But that's the same with every mirror matchup except sometimes TvT.
kiss kiss fall in love
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
August 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#1630
On August 08 2013 03:58 sparklyresidue wrote:
Starcraft II: Heart of the Storm


Meanwhile Zerg and Terran winning every tournament.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:59:38
August 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#1631
On August 08 2013 03:58 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:56 scypio wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:53 Heartland wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:53 scypio wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 boxerfred wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 Noonius wrote:
Analysis by Apollo: be behind, get storm, turtle, win



Basically, MMA threw it. It wasn't about any game imbalance. Get it, please.


Basically, toss was always the comeback race and it shines through this game. So stop calling throws as a competent toss can play from behind, and Naniwa looked pretty competent today.


Toss is the comeback race?


Yes, you could have seen it yesterday when Lucifron was rampaging duckdeoks main in their G3 and today again in the Nani vs MMA we just watched.


Or when Mvp played protoss against Innovation and Tefel. Or when Taeja played protoss against Hyun at ASUS ROG

I wanna watch that game now... are the VODS up somewhere?

edit, whoops ^^
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#1632
Hmm hopefully MMA still gets through and works on his damn TvP.
LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 19:01:13
August 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#1633
On August 08 2013 03:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:54 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:48 Noonius wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:45 Bahajinbo wrote:
6 Protoss. WTF. At least I can learn something about PvP. It seems that Protoss doesn't need the sad zealot fanclub anymore.



You'll learn that colossus lazer shows are boring and you'll never want to see another hots pvp again

Every time someone says PvP is boring I feel obligated to tell them to watch this



It was a typical turtly hasuobs game, he had a similar vs Thorazin in hoestory cup

I prsonally found it long and tedious

Do not talk about that game, please. T.T


The casters made that one (vs Thorazin) very amusing, though
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#1634
On August 08 2013 03:59 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:58 sparklyresidue wrote:
Starcraft II: Heart of the Storm


Meanwhile Zerg and Terran winning every tournament.

I wonder how hard will you shut up after we'll have more than half of S2 finals filled with Protoss.
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
August 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#1635
On August 08 2013 03:54 Destructicon wrote:
MMA's TvP was bad in his prime but now its facepalm worthy. That game was orders of magnitude worst then Jaedong's ZvP or JYP's PvT.


Dumbest thing I've heard. MMA played pretty damn well that game, way better than any EU terran at least. Naniwa was just better tonight.
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#1636
On August 08 2013 03:59 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:54 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:48 Noonius wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:45 Bahajinbo wrote:
6 Protoss. WTF. At least I can learn something about PvP. It seems that Protoss doesn't need the sad zealot fanclub anymore.



You'll learn that colossus lazer shows are boring and you'll never want to see another hots pvp again

Every time someone says PvP is boring I feel obligated to tell them to watch this



It was a typical turtly hasuobs game, he had a similar vs Thorazin in hoestory cup

I prsonally found it long and tedious

Do not talk about that game, please. T.T


The casters made that one (vs Thorazin) made it very amusing, though

The one before the last one was just bruuuuuuutal.
kiss kiss fall in love
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 07 2013 19:00 GMT
#1637
I missed the game, so how hard did he throw?

Like a regular Bomber throw.

A Tefel throw.

Or a Nestea I'm up on 5 base and have broodlord/infestor against 2 and still lost throw?
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 07 2013 19:01 GMT
#1638
On August 08 2013 03:56 d00p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:53 AxiR wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 NovaMB wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:51 AxiR wrote:
I'm so sick of people complaining about too many tosses. Last season we had 2 in the ro8.


1

Woops.

Well, that makes the whiners even more hypocritical.


They are not whiners ffs! It's a bad viewing experience with only PvP is all it is.


yep, nothing kills the tournament faster than seeing the same matchup 10 times in a row
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 07 2013 19:01 GMT
#1639
On August 08 2013 03:58 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:56 scypio wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:53 Heartland wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:53 scypio wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 boxerfred wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:50 Noonius wrote:
Analysis by Apollo: be behind, get storm, turtle, win



Basically, MMA threw it. It wasn't about any game imbalance. Get it, please.


Basically, toss was always the comeback race and it shines through this game. So stop calling throws as a competent toss can play from behind, and Naniwa looked pretty competent today.


Toss is the comeback race?


Yes, you could have seen it yesterday when Lucifron was rampaging duckdeoks main in their G3 and today again in the Nani vs MMA we just watched.


Or when Mvp played protoss against Innovation and Tefel. Or when Taeja played protoss against Hyun at ASUS ROG

I wanna watch that game now... are the VODS up somewhere?


Which one? Mvp vs Bogus is on youtube I think, Tefel vs Mvp should be on ESL somewhere and TaeJa vs Hyun no idea but it wasn't a good game anyway
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 19:01 GMT
#1640
On August 08 2013 04:00 stuchiu wrote:
I missed the game, so how hard did he throw?

Like a regular Bomber throw.

A Tefel throw.

Or a Nestea I'm up on 5 base and have broodlord/infestor against 2 and still lost throw?

Like MKP DC throw.
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