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[WCS EU] RO16 Group C Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 33

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broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
August 07 2013 17:03 GMT
#641
On August 08 2013 02:01 Apoteosis wrote:
Wait, Naniwa being polite ?

WTH has happened to him ?


"Totally not EG, [A]" media training?
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:04:26
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#642
On August 08 2013 02:03 Aeromi wrote:
Naniwa was playing on a barcode or I'm blind ?

Read it wrong, sorry.
Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#643
On August 08 2013 02:02 Panozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:00 Lysanias wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:59 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:57 Gojira621 wrote:
naniwa made voids every single game and tefel whines balance despite the fact that he didnt make a single infestor or corruptors. what a joke


You don't make Corruptors in that situation. This isn't WoL, Void Rays hard counter Corruptors. You need an overwhelming number to beat out VRs and against 3 SGs you aren't likely to get that.


Wich is amusing and horribly wrong balanced, An anti air unit losing to a allround unit.


Do Corruptors actually beat anything air straight up? (not counting Msc/Oracle etc)


Phoenix, Colossus, Carriers, Tempest.
/)*(\
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#644
On August 08 2013 02:01 Undead1993 wrote:
actually just a simple question, is someone really enjoying this after game analysis stuff by apollo? i mean it's not apollo's fault but i feel like this is unnecessary


its cool but it makes the broadcasts unnecessarily long. I know they have no control over how long each game is, but it seems like there is so much time between games sometimes in WCS and I simply can't just sit here and watch an entire 4 or 5 hour broadcast where it feels like 2 hours of that is the guys at the desk, videos, analysis, etc.
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:04:44
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#645

Wich is amusing and horribly wrong balanced, An anti air unit losing to a allround unit.

An 'all round' unit that is very expensive (250m 150g, Corruptor is only 150m 100g) and does extremely well against armored units only when the cooldown is activated, and outright causes the Protoss to lose the game on the spot when mismicroed/misused.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#646
On August 08 2013 02:03 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:03 Aeromi wrote:
Naniwa was playing on a barcode or I'm blind ?

Indeed he was.




Ok, thanks.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#647
On August 08 2013 02:03 EdouarKiLL wrote:
HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY !! :D


JOY JOY JOY!

sorry, I couldnt resist. It's classic

Terran forever | Maru hater forever
GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#648
On August 08 2013 02:02 Panozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:00 Lysanias wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:59 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:57 Gojira621 wrote:
naniwa made voids every single game and tefel whines balance despite the fact that he didnt make a single infestor or corruptors. what a joke


You don't make Corruptors in that situation. This isn't WoL, Void Rays hard counter Corruptors. You need an overwhelming number to beat out VRs and against 3 SGs you aren't likely to get that.


Wich is amusing and horribly wrong balanced, An anti air unit losing to a allround unit.


Do Corruptors actually beat anything air straight up? (not counting Msc/Oracle etc)


no, but making them stronger would make it impossible to play Colossi anymore.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#649
On August 08 2013 02:03 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:01 Waise wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:59 VisonKai wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:57 Abominous wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:56 KristofferAG wrote:
Gimme dem KeSPA chat rules pls.

Yeah, god forbid some drama occurs.


But drama sucks nooooo!!!

srsly people, something has to make these kinds of games interesting. I enjoyed this series because of the backstory of it and the reactions, even thuogh the games were mediocre at best.

so if the players aren't upset and don't dislike each other the game is boring? why would i be happy for the players to be unhappy? they're human beings


it's not boring, it's fine when the game can stand on its own even if two nonames played it. But a bit of story / drama to spice things up is most welcome.

so again: you think it's "welcome" if the players are upset or unhappy?

you are free to have that opinion, man, but i don't consider other people's emotions my entertainment...
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#650
On August 08 2013 02:02 Panozen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:00 Lysanias wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:59 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:57 Gojira621 wrote:
naniwa made voids every single game and tefel whines balance despite the fact that he didnt make a single infestor or corruptors. what a joke


You don't make Corruptors in that situation. This isn't WoL, Void Rays hard counter Corruptors. You need an overwhelming number to beat out VRs and against 3 SGs you aren't likely to get that.


Wich is amusing and horribly wrong balanced, An anti air unit losing to a allround unit.


Do Corruptors actually beat anything air straight up? (not counting Msc/Oracle etc)

i haven't tried it, but i would guess phoenixes and carriers?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#651
On August 08 2013 02:03 broodmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:01 Apoteosis wrote:
Wait, Naniwa being polite ?

WTH has happened to him ?


"Totally not EG, [A]" media training?

Nanis been relatively polite in interviews ever since his break out run in SC2, it's just when the adrenaline gets to him that he's a raging dumbass.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#652
Omg thank God Acer changed their ridiculous jershey.
Refer to my post.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#653
On August 08 2013 02:02 GaliX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:01 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:00 Waise wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:58 vult wrote:
nani said a naughty word.

it's europe, not a big deal there

Now I wanna live there.


just join Apollo and Redeye

How'd you guess?!
kiss kiss fall in love
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#654
On August 08 2013 02:02 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 01:59 Big J wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:56 DJHelium wrote:
The best thing about the void rays is that you don't have to target fire, they will kill the hydras first anyway. As soon as you see them targeting a roach, just activate them.

I don't think Tefel is reacting to this build in a good way, infestors would at least twice as good.


I think people overestimate infestors for that. Fungal has been nerfed by 10damage vs armored and infestors are really expensive in the midgame. He would get at most 10infestors instead of the 30hydras he was working with.

Imo, the way to go against this style is either blindcounter the third with an allin or sit on 4bases forever with hydra/viper/swarmhost/statics.

Edit: fungal is still good vs void rays, but it's not affordable to deal with them in the midgame.

You underestimate it. You don't need 10 infestors. You only use them for fungal, ITs are useless. Voidrays stack a loooot - sure he could split them, but lets be honest, nobody really does. Even having just 2 infestors, pinning them and dealing 50-60 dmg (since people generally overlap the fungals) to ALL of them is hugely significant. A pure hydra army won't do the job


I don't think you should base your strategy on your opponent playing shit. Naniwa scouted a lot. Had he seen infestors, he would have surely presplit his army.

Tefel should have just played the swarm host turtle. That's the way to beat those air armies, make yourself invulnerable to anything that isn't mass colossus and then pick of stuff with vipers.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#655
I have something going on from 4 PM local time to 6:30 PM, which is in three hours. Do you think I'll be back to catch Game 3 of this series?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#656
On August 08 2013 01:16 Panozen wrote:
The_Templar, do you get paid for this or something? oO, thanks a lot though for the top-notch reporting

I just started this week because I have little else to do xD
Moderatorshe/her
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 07 2013 17:05 GMT
#657
MMA's hair is sick.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
August 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#658
On August 08 2013 02:01 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:00 scypio wrote:
Naniwa looked pretty good there, he adapted to Tefel's playstyle pretty well (apart from the throw in G1).

What? It was much more Tefel NOT adapting to NaNiwa's play. Not a single infestor was built.


Tefel has a story of sticking to his builds forever. He is unlikely to surprise anyone with building hydras, he just executes it well enough to get into wcs eu ro16.

Naniwa on the other hand is known for coming up with new builds and he played differently vs Tefel today.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#659
On August 08 2013 02:04 Thallis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:02 Panozen wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:00 Lysanias wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:59 Exarl25 wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:57 Gojira621 wrote:
naniwa made voids every single game and tefel whines balance despite the fact that he didnt make a single infestor or corruptors. what a joke


You don't make Corruptors in that situation. This isn't WoL, Void Rays hard counter Corruptors. You need an overwhelming number to beat out VRs and against 3 SGs you aren't likely to get that.


Wich is amusing and horribly wrong balanced, An anti air unit losing to a allround unit.


Do Corruptors actually beat anything air straight up? (not counting Msc/Oracle etc)


Phoenix, Colossus, Carriers, Tempest.

Why would you a-move your Tempest into Corruptors. There's no other way you're gonna lose Tempests to Corruptors if you have some archons underneath, though.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
August 07 2013 17:06 GMT
#660
On August 08 2013 02:04 Gojira621 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:01 Undead1993 wrote:
actually just a simple question, is someone really enjoying this after game analysis stuff by apollo? i mean it's not apollo's fault but i feel like this is unnecessary


its cool but it makes the broadcasts unnecessarily long. I know they have no control over how long each game is, but it seems like there is so much time between games sometimes in WCS and I simply can't just sit here and watch an entire 4 or 5 hour broadcast where it feels like 2 hours of that is the guys at the desk, videos, analysis, etc.

well they don't have commercials to run like typical sports events and you can't just run game after game after game... i think most people want some downtime to go to the bathroom, make lunch, occupy their brains with things other than starcraft for a little bit...
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