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On August 06 2013 20:24 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:22 Taro134 wrote:So I just count TvZ in this OSL is 17-5(77.2%) for maps. Do not wanna say balance issue but its just ridiculous compared to PvT or PvZ. And actually if I remember right  Soulkey never won against any Terran after the final with Innovation. He only wont that final with sheer ballsy all-ins and incredible mental fortitude; only the last game did he play a macro game and his win was partly thanks to Innovation giving up 3 full medivacs for free. I don't want to cry imbalance but I don't think we can really say Zergs are doing well at the moment.
The thing is the ling-bane-muta style never really worked out with the new mmm army. Maybe some day we have a zerg genius figure out a better composition. I still think they need infestors though.
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Norway25712 Posts
Anyone want to live report please?
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On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins.
I feel NO shame!
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Austria24422 Posts
On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins.
You'll be doing defensive double forge colossus in no time
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On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins.
I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying
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On August 06 2013 20:51 Taro134 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:24 Incognoto wrote:On August 06 2013 20:22 Taro134 wrote:So I just count TvZ in this OSL is 17-5(77.2%) for maps. Do not wanna say balance issue but its just ridiculous compared to PvT or PvZ. And actually if I remember right Soulkey never won against any Terran after the final with Innovation. He only wont that final with sheer ballsy all-ins and incredible mental fortitude; only the last game did he play a macro game and his win was partly thanks to Innovation giving up 3 full medivacs for free. I don't want to cry imbalance but I don't think we can really say Zergs are doing well at the moment. The thing is the ling-bane-muta style never really worked out with the new mmm army. Maybe some day we have a zerg genius figure out a better composition. I still think they need infestors though.
Too bad that actionjesus retired really
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On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:51 Taro134 wrote:On August 06 2013 20:24 Incognoto wrote:On August 06 2013 20:22 Taro134 wrote:So I just count TvZ in this OSL is 17-5(77.2%) for maps. Do not wanna say balance issue but its just ridiculous compared to PvT or PvZ. And actually if I remember right Soulkey never won against any Terran after the final with Innovation. He only wont that final with sheer ballsy all-ins and incredible mental fortitude; only the last game did he play a macro game and his win was partly thanks to Innovation giving up 3 full medivacs for free. I don't want to cry imbalance but I don't think we can really say Zergs are doing well at the moment. The thing is the ling-bane-muta style never really worked out with the new mmm army. Maybe some day we have a zerg genius figure out a better composition. I still think they need infestors though. Too bad that actionjesus retired really
Knock, knock
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Northern Ireland26236 Posts
Godamnit, I genuinely had typed out my feelings that Supernova was being written off at his peril and forgot to post it. Curses!
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On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying
That's simultaneously so fucking hideous and ugly of you
and so fucking sexy and gratifying.
I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS FEELS.
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On August 06 2013 20:51 Taro134 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:24 Incognoto wrote:On August 06 2013 20:22 Taro134 wrote:So I just count TvZ in this OSL is 17-5(77.2%) for maps. Do not wanna say balance issue but its just ridiculous compared to PvT or PvZ. And actually if I remember right Soulkey never won against any Terran after the final with Innovation. He only wont that final with sheer ballsy all-ins and incredible mental fortitude; only the last game did he play a macro game and his win was partly thanks to Innovation giving up 3 full medivacs for free. I don't want to cry imbalance but I don't think we can really say Zergs are doing well at the moment. The thing is the ling-bane-muta style never really worked out with the new mmm army. Maybe some day we have a zerg genius figure out a better composition. I still think they need infestors though.
Should look at Life or JD for muta-ling comp. 
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On August 06 2013 20:54 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying That's simultaneously so fucking hideous and ugly of you and so fucking sexy and gratifying. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS FEELS.
I take it that you play terran? If so just proxy two rax reaper every game or something, you'll get far enough to enjoy that same satisfaction.
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France9034 Posts
Wait, wait what ? How did Soulkey lost ? Thought it'd be nearly a walkover with SuNo TvZ not that brilliant, but apparently no 
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On August 06 2013 20:54 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying That's simultaneously so fucking hideous and ugly of you and so fucking sexy and gratifying. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS FEELS.
Probably the same as when you kill everything with a bunch of cloaked Banshees.
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On August 06 2013 20:55 Ragnarork wrote:Wait, wait what ? How did Soulkey lost ? Thought it'd be nearly a walkover with SuNo TvZ not that brilliant, but apparently no
Turns out his TvZ is that brilliant.
Games 2 and 3 were crazy, must-watch.
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On August 06 2013 20:55 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:54 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying That's simultaneously so fucking hideous and ugly of you and so fucking sexy and gratifying. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS FEELS. Probably the same as when you kill everything with a bunch of cloaked Banshees.
The good thing about protoss cheeses though is opening up sc2gears at the end and comparing eapms. Nothing quite so satisfying as destroying someone that has 170+ with like 50
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On August 06 2013 20:55 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:54 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying That's simultaneously so fucking hideous and ugly of you and so fucking sexy and gratifying. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS FEELS. Probably the same as when you kill everything with a bunch of cloaked Banshees.
Never happened, lol. I was in Bronze trying to get into Silver when I used to "do" that 4 hellion into cloaked banshee build. I'd do alright at harassing, but I didn't actually know that you could use hotkeys to manufacture units without having to look at your base so by the time the zergs would get their Spores up I would be on 1 base, floating 1500 minerals and gas and still only have a single of each production building.
My my, how times have changed. Maybe I'll try this against lower league players in 1v1 Obs now lol.
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Not as even as 40:40 though artosis, and the tasteless blessing has been applied, first to get 2:0'd
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On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying
Hellion drops here and 2 port banshee ^^; . But playing Zerg was more fun, especially if you end it with a 25 game winning streak before switching to Protoss at the time when people said Thors kill infinite Mutas, while you don't get there because of Reapers into Marauder.
Then I found out Random gives you one win for the race you played and for random, when it comes to achievements and don't forget the instant leave free wins you get as random !
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France9034 Posts
On August 06 2013 20:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:55 Ragnarork wrote:Wait, wait what ? How did Soulkey lost ? Thought it'd be nearly a walkover with SuNo TvZ not that brilliant, but apparently no Turns out his TvZ is that brilliant. Games 2 and 3 were crazy, must-watch.
Oh snap, will do ! Always thought of SuNo as a great PvT player, but not TvZ.
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Austria24422 Posts
On August 06 2013 20:58 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:55 Heartland wrote:On August 06 2013 20:54 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:50 Lunareste wrote:On August 06 2013 20:49 Tobblish wrote:
When ahead, Dark Shrine. When I finally main switch to Protoss, I'm probably gonna just gonna build DTs every game. I must know the shame that all Protoss must feel when they get free wins. I got to diamond league, back before masters existed on the back of 2 base dt allins every game. Nothing I have ever done in sc2 was so satisfying That's simultaneously so fucking hideous and ugly of you and so fucking sexy and gratifying. I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS FEELS. Probably the same as when you kill everything with a bunch of cloaked Banshees. Never happened, lol. I was in Bronze trying to get into Silver when I used to "do" that 4 hellion into cloaked banshee build. I'd do alright at harassing, but I didn't actually know that you could use hotkeys to manufacture units without having to look at your base so by the time the zergs would get their Spores up I would be on 1 base, floating 1500 minerals and gas and still only have a single of each production building. My my, how times have changed. Maybe I'll try this against lower league players in 1v1 Obs now lol.
Just open hellion/marine pressure into expand and watch how many games you accidentally win
TvP I mean ofc
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