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On August 06 2013 20:40 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:38 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2013 20:38 bo1b wrote: I will be crushingly disappointed if protoss don't get some units that scale with micro in lotv "We have decided to remove the high templar and replace him with. A SECOND COLOSSUS" It's like the biggest reason they can't be buffed without breaking the game. "We've got this design choice we're protoss will be stupidly far ahead of their opponents until they hit a certain mechanical level, then they won't be able to win ever." "Sounds good David!"
So you would rather have no protosses at all than some making it every now and then? 0o
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On August 06 2013 20:37 Waxangel wrote: Disregard storm, acquire victory ^_^
KT Rolster should just reacquire SuperNoVa once Azubu folds I still want him on Liquid, but I feel I'll never get this wish granted T__T
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Wonder if Artosis will ever get out of his prediction slumb.
But it is pretty stupid to bet on a player that is one letter further away from M then his opponent. But gogogo First <3
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On August 06 2013 20:40 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:38 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2013 20:38 bo1b wrote: I will be crushingly disappointed if protoss don't get some units that scale with micro in lotv "We have decided to remove the high templar and replace him with. A SECOND COLOSSUS" It's like the biggest reason they can't be buffed without breaking the game. "We've got this design choice we're protoss will be stupidly far ahead of their opponents until they hit a certain mechanical level, then they won't be able to win ever." "Sounds good David!"
well, we knew about Protoss design flaws for a long time already. But still nobody came up with any way to solve this problem besides a complete revamp
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On August 06 2013 20:42 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:40 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:38 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2013 20:38 bo1b wrote: I will be crushingly disappointed if protoss don't get some units that scale with micro in lotv "We have decided to remove the high templar and replace him with. A SECOND COLOSSUS" It's like the biggest reason they can't be buffed without breaking the game. "We've got this design choice we're protoss will be stupidly far ahead of their opponents until they hit a certain mechanical level, then they won't be able to win ever." "Sounds good David!" So you would rather have no protosses at all than some making it every now and then? 0o We're did you get that from my post?
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
On August 06 2013 20:42 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:37 Waxangel wrote: Disregard storm, acquire victory ^_^
KT Rolster should just reacquire SuperNoVa once Azubu folds I still want him on Liquid, but I feel I'll never get this wish granted T__T
Indeed, EG will sign him up no doubt
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On August 06 2013 20:42 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:37 Waxangel wrote: Disregard storm, acquire victory ^_^
KT Rolster should just reacquire SuperNoVa once Azubu folds I still want him on Liquid, but I feel I'll never get this wish granted T__T
even harder now because buying players when they're high makes their salaries higher and makes EG-curse more likely
I think stephano is like the only player who was acquired at a high value who kept fairly high value (and Im talking all of sc2, not just eg)
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On August 06 2013 20:42 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:37 Waxangel wrote: Disregard storm, acquire victory ^_^
KT Rolster should just reacquire SuperNoVa once Azubu folds I still want him on Liquid, but I feel I'll never get this wish granted T__T
Get Supernova, Symbol and San on EG-TL and gogogo PL. If only...
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On August 06 2013 20:25 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:22 Destructicon wrote:On August 06 2013 20:20 liberate71 wrote:On August 06 2013 20:14 figq wrote:On August 06 2013 20:12 LittleRedBoy wrote: That was some great widow mine micro by Supernova. On a side note, to say great widow mine micro is okay, but to say great swarm host micro is not okay. I don't get it. I think they are both kinda ridiculous statements. Positioning the two units is a measure of skill though, they both still serve a purpose. Well, it has been proven trough experimentation that you can force a widow mine to not fire or to fire on a specific target, and you can burrow and unburrow them to prevent too many from firing at once if they send it a lot of units. So, objectively speaking I think mines can have more involving micro, to them, not only positioning, as where with SH the only thing you can do is position them, you can't do any fancy micro with the locust or the SH. Lol wut? So unborrwing/burrowing them to perfectly synch up your waves so you get constant locust rather than waves is no micro? Disabling auto cast when you don't have the upgrade yet for some reason so you can get as much life out of your locust as possible is also no micro? Sending out a wave to poke and then retreat is no micro? Disabling auto cast and having some burrowed at your expos to defend and then casting locust when it gets harrassed is also no micro? Just because everyone sucks with sh atm doesn't mean there is no micro. Besides the fact that just a moving your locust is also kinda bad. @Vertitto: Nothing just like there is nothing wrong with any of the other units, but people see balance issues where I see a game that is too far away from being figured out to make any balance calls based on statistics.
To be honest, half of what you said isn't really relevant. Locust are expendable why in the world would you not let them auto-attack, no one just pokes and retreats with them since any damage they do is free damage, don't pretend like there is micro in that because honestly there isn't. No one does disable auto-cast thing because if you get SH you always get the upgrade anyway, and even if you don't have it the timing window of when you don't have it is so small that it is irrelevant. The syncing up of SH waves is just something you do once or twice until you build up your optimal number.
Back on topic, sweet game from SuperNova, I might take a closer look at that build.
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
da fuck this build? robo in main proxy robo?
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On August 06 2013 20:43 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:42 Tobblish wrote:On August 06 2013 20:40 bo1b wrote:On August 06 2013 20:38 Fusilero wrote:On August 06 2013 20:38 bo1b wrote: I will be crushingly disappointed if protoss don't get some units that scale with micro in lotv "We have decided to remove the high templar and replace him with. A SECOND COLOSSUS" It's like the biggest reason they can't be buffed without breaking the game. "We've got this design choice we're protoss will be stupidly far ahead of their opponents until they hit a certain mechanical level, then they won't be able to win ever." "Sounds good David!" So you would rather have no protosses at all than some making it every now and then? 0o We're did you get that from my post?
If it was changed it would have some pretty obvious chain reactions  (Yes, I'm going in that direction with it)
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The fact that this is not out of the ordinary for televised protoss games really speaks of the design
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
Oh he canceled the one in his main 0.O strange build
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ooo, supernova gonna get wrecked
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Well this ain't gon be pretty
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And this is where I'll just close my eyes.
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Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
See's 3 sentrys makes mass bunker :S Well his game sense is 100000000000x better than mine rofl
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On August 06 2013 20:44 Daswollvieh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2013 20:42 Serinox wrote:On August 06 2013 20:37 Waxangel wrote: Disregard storm, acquire victory ^_^
KT Rolster should just reacquire SuperNoVa once Azubu folds I still want him on Liquid, but I feel I'll never get this wish granted T__T Get Supernova, Symbol and San on EG-TL and gogogo PL. If only... am i wrong or is there no EG-TL in PL anymore
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United States33077 Posts
nope, soulfields
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