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blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#1661
On August 06 2013 05:09 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:04 blobrus wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:02 Faust852 wrote:
Nice how a protoss can build that much on 2 bases.


Because he spent most of his minerals on zealots, and saved the gas for tech.



So what you are telling me is that he can mass a wall of mineral units and also get high tech units without having to expand past a second base?


Well mvp didn't punish it, he was very weak for a period there, so yeah. It's not like this game is imbalanced, Mvp just isn't the best in the world anymore.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
August 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#1662
Damn, HasuObs, good show.

I still want Mvp to win it all though. Europe should not be spared from the fury of the King.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
August 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#1663
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

I lol'd
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 20:11:10
August 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#1664
On August 06 2013 05:09 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:08 blobrus wrote:
What people don't realize is if Hasu didn't feedback the ghosts when mvp was pushing earlier, he probably would have just lost.
Caster mentioned it like 4 times though...


And even a special chapter dedicated to the feedbacker templar lol.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
August 05 2013 20:10 GMT
#1665
Well, i wont watch Wcs eu, if Mvp fails to advance
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1666
On August 06 2013 05:10 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Where are the moderators? Some stupid balance whining going on in this thread.

This is normal when the favorite loses. Just ignore it.
Off-season = best season
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1667
On August 06 2013 05:09 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:08 blobrus wrote:
What people don't realize is if Hasu didn't feedback the ghosts when mvp was pushing earlier, he probably would have just lost.
Caster mentioned it like 4 times though...


And yet there are still tons of terrans complaining.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1668
On August 06 2013 05:10 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.


Funnily enough a sentry with hallucination can do all of these things.


Not really
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1669
I really think that MVP played a great game on Belshire but this is TvP, Hasu went 2 base templar-collosi-zealot. It looked ridiculous but it works lol!.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1670
On August 06 2013 05:10 habeck wrote:
Well, i wont watch Wcs eu, if Mvp fails to advance


that's a little extreme
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 20:14:24
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1671
On August 06 2013 05:09 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:08 blobrus wrote:
What people don't realize is if Hasu didn't feedback the ghosts when mvp was pushing earlier, he probably would have just lost.
Caster mentioned it like 4 times though...


wouldn't even be that sure about that. he would've still got 2-3 storms through which should've been enough to hold MVP back, if he commited on the natural.
edit: to make it more clear: hasu had a supply lead at that point and around 6 templar out. MVP didn't have enough emps at this point and we only see protoss die to these kind of allins before they get storm and when they are behind in supply. Both were not the case in that game, so I highly doubt, Hasu would've died to a commitment here.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 20:11:59
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1672
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

Yep, you're totally going to fly over HTs/Phoenixes with your Medivac to see Protoss' whole base. Noticed how Mvp's first scan in the game missed the Stargate? So much for your "magical vision" which doesn't tell you where Protoss hid his tech (and isn't free at all by the way, no idea what you're talking about).
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1673
Poll: Head?

Grubby (16)
 
59%

Ret (11)
 
41%

27 total votes

Your vote: Head?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Grubby


Poll: Heart?

Grubby (22)
 
73%

Ret (8)
 
27%

30 total votes

Your vote: Heart?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Grubby

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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
August 05 2013 20:11 GMT
#1674
Yeah, some really awesome Starcraft being played these last few days...love dat shit!
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
August 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#1675
On August 06 2013 05:11 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:10 stuchiu wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.


Funnily enough a sentry with hallucination can do all of these things.


Not really

It cant jump, can it?
daskilla
Profile Joined July 2010
Latvia141 Posts
August 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#1676
On August 06 2013 05:10 habeck wrote:
Well, i wont watch Wcs eu, if Mvp fails to advance

who cares?
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#1677
On August 06 2013 05:11 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

Yep, you're totally going to fly over HTs/Phoenixes with your Medivac to see Protoss' whole base. Noticed how Mvp's first scan in the game missed the Stargate? So much for your "magical vision" which doesn't tell you where Protoss hid his tech (and isn't free at all by the way, no idea what you're talking about).


No race has perfect scouting, I don't really see the problem.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#1678
On August 06 2013 05:11 ImperialFist wrote:
I really think that MVP played a great game on Belshire but this is TvP, Hasu went 2 base templar-collosi-zealot. It looked ridiculous but it works lol!.



Not just that be he also opened Oracle and got Phoenix as well. That's what's crazy about it. The HT, Colossus on 2 base isn't ridiculous, but with the Stargate units? You need a damn good build to pull that off.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#1679
On August 06 2013 05:10 habeck wrote:
Well, i wont watch Wcs eu, if Mvp fails to advance


Are any of your posts NOT MvP fanboy QQ?

I really like MvP, but his fans are driving me up the wall lately.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
August 05 2013 20:12 GMT
#1680
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

Damn you
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
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