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SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
August 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#1701
On August 06 2013 05:14 Rhaegal wrote:
Only 1 hour 45 minutes until the real WCS begins.

You are talking about WCS Korea B?
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#1702
On August 06 2013 05:10 habeck wrote:
Well, i wont watch Wcs eu, if Mvp fails to advance

Then you must ignore pretty much every tournament nowdays since MVP rarely shows his face anywhere?
you no take candle
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
August 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#1703
On August 06 2013 05:14 Rhaegal wrote:
Only 1 hour 45 minutes until the real WCS begins.


you're talking about the one with the Koreans and Chinese played in the country that refuses to hand out visas?
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1218 Posts
August 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#1704
On August 06 2013 05:15 ImperialFist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:12 blobrus wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:11 TheDwf wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

Yep, you're totally going to fly over HTs/Phoenixes with your Medivac to see Protoss' whole base. Noticed how Mvp's first scan in the game missed the Stargate? So much for your "magical vision" which doesn't tell you where Protoss hid his tech (and isn't free at all by the way, no idea what you're talking about).


No race has perfect scouting, I don't really see the problem.


hallucination+obs is perfect scouting, how can it not be? Relying on scans to scout is retarded on the other hand. It's like playing the lottery.


Let it go bro...
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#1705
I hate how Protoss tech is such a game changer...

Still, Mvp really did micro his heart out in that last engagement. It was an impressive attempt.
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
August 05 2013 20:16 GMT
#1706
Mvp took a very defensive stance in the beginning as he was confident that he can beat hasu in the late game with better macro and army control.

I think that it was a good idea, unfortunately he lost his third for no apparent reason (why no fly it towards his nat and not into the corner of the map?).

With the snipe on the third, good templar micro and a nice tech switch hasu was the better player today. I wouldn't be too worried for mvp should they meet in a later stage thou.
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Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
August 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#1707
On August 06 2013 05:15 Maasked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:13 stuchiu wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:12 Roman666 wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:11 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:10 stuchiu wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.


Funnily enough a sentry with hallucination can do all of these things.


Not really

It cant jump, can it?


Fake phoenixes are better than Reapers for scouting anyway.

Fake phoenix scouts can be risky though, the loss of 100 energy could lose you a critical engagement, as it has for me several times.

Then make another sentry, reapers aren't free, and on most maps a hallucinated phoenix is way superior to reapers. A reaper is past the early game a complete waste of resources besides a possible suicide scout that might or might not see what you need to see.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#1708
On August 06 2013 05:16 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:14 Rhaegal wrote:
Only 1 hour 45 minutes until the real WCS begins.

You are talking about WCS Korea B?


WCS NA: The Korea B-team, ft. Jim.
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
August 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#1709
On August 06 2013 05:16 Fluffboll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:13 Strela wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:11 TheDwf wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

Yep, you're totally going to fly over HTs/Phoenixes with your Medivac to see Protoss' whole base. Noticed how Mvp's first scan in the game missed the Stargate? So much for your "magical vision" which doesn't tell you where Protoss hid his tech (and isn't free at all by the way, no idea what you're talking about).

I agree, the scan should reveal 100% of the map and atleast for 2 minutes...


2 minutes? What are you going to see in 2 minutes? That is way too short of a time period!

I agree, make it 5 minutes and reveal 200% of map.
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
August 05 2013 20:17 GMT
#1710
Mass chargelots ripping apart bio and flying factory ... what could be the problem?
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1711
On August 06 2013 05:13 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:12 blobrus wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:11 TheDwf wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:08 Heartland wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:07 dohgg wrote:
Another case of a prottos hiding his colossus... terrans need a better scouting ability then hitting a money scan to find these transitions.


It's almost like they need a fast, regenerating unit which can jump up cliffs.

Or a flying unit which is faster than anything in the game to fly over the army.

Or a magical vision from afar they can activate for free and which can't be blocked.

Yep, you're totally going to fly over HTs/Phoenixes with your Medivac to see Protoss' whole base. Noticed how Mvp's first scan in the game missed the Stargate? So much for your "magical vision" which doesn't tell you where Protoss hid his tech (and isn't free at all by the way, no idea what you're talking about).


No race has perfect scouting, I don't really see the problem.


Well we have perfect scouting in PvT because we already know from the start what the terran's gonna do every game.


This is actually true. Except that awesome Hellion/Tank game last week, i forget who that was. But I never bother scouting PvT, you are 100% sure he's going to do a MMM push at 11minutes, drops sorta whenever.
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dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1712
wow people are harsh today:o

Great match, well done Hasuobs! Mvp should will make it out though.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1713
i am a big mvpfan, but hasu played that well, and mvp was being risky game 1 and lost the HT/Ghost microwar game 3, but i am still hoping and rooting for mvp in the final series of the day, if he gets knocked out it would be a huge upset for sure!
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1714
On August 06 2013 05:16 Nesto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:14 Rhaegal wrote:
Only 1 hour 45 minutes until the real WCS begins.


you're talking about the one with the Koreans and Chinese played in the country that refuses to hand out visas?



Hey, would you hand out a Visa to someone who stayed too long in the country the last time you gave him one?
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-05 20:19:37
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1715
Wcs has been verry entertaining today.
Go foreigners
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1716
On August 06 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:16 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:14 Rhaegal wrote:
Only 1 hour 45 minutes until the real WCS begins.

You are talking about WCS Korea B?


WCS NA: The Korea B-team, ft. Jim.


Sentrytiming lezz go
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1717
On August 06 2013 05:17 Rammstorm wrote:
Mass chargelots ripping apart bio and flying factory ... what could be the problem?


well tbh chargelot hardcounters any units from the baracks, blue flame hellbats are good though!
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Maasked
Profile Joined December 2011
United States567 Posts
August 05 2013 20:18 GMT
#1718
On August 06 2013 05:17 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2013 05:16 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
On August 06 2013 05:14 Rhaegal wrote:
Only 1 hour 45 minutes until the real WCS begins.

You are talking about WCS Korea B?


WCS NA: The Korea B-team, ft. Jim.

With special guests Demuslim, Scarlett and Minigun
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levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
August 05 2013 20:19 GMT
#1719
Come on guys. I love mvp too but Hasu deserved that win. It was a really innovative build - just like the stuff mvp puts up! Like each part of that build had a specific point to it. Oracle to harass and envision, phoenix to deny drops and scouting, aggressive posturing with templar to force ghosts. Even well hidden buildings.

If you must balance whine, the oonly real issue is that hasu knew for sure he would not play mech (because it's just bad against p).
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 05 2013 20:19 GMT
#1720
On August 06 2013 05:18 dubRa wrote:
wow people are harsh today:o

Great match, well done Hasuobs! Mvp should will make it out though.

It's a monday thread!
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