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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1541
PULL THE CORD OGN PLZ
The Bomber boy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1542
On August 01 2013 19:07 drew-chan wrote:
4-0's. 4-0's everywhere

it's 2-1 atm
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1543
--- Nuked ---
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1544
hahahahahahahhhahahaha
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10166 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1545
On August 01 2013 19:07 drew-chan wrote:
4-0's. 4-0's everywhere

Bomber won game 1 ;p
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1546
On August 01 2013 19:06 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:05 GolemMadness wrote:
FAR too many people in this thread don't know who Chobra is.

Yeah, how can people not know who the archinemesis of GIJOEs is.

I like what I've heard so far, but it would be nice to get some explanation beyond 'omg you don't know who chobra is' haha.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1547
Sigh
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1548
On August 01 2013 19:07 drew-chan wrote:
4-0's. 4-0's everywhere

But the score's 2-1.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1549
On August 01 2013 19:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[OSL] Ro4 Day 2 WCS Korea Season 2 2013
[image loading] (P)Rain vs. [image loading] (T)Bomber
Game 4 (2-1)
Map: Star Station

0:00
Rain spawns in the bottom left
Bomber spawns in the top right

1:40
gateway first for Rain
rax first for Bomber

2:00
gas for Rain
Cybernetics core for Rain

3:00
zealot for Rain
CC on the low ground for Bomber
probe scout of Rain sees the CC

4:00
Nexus for Rain
scv scout from Bomber sees the nexus
MSC for Rain
2nd gas for Rain
3rd CC hidden in the bottom right for Bomber
another rax for Bomber

5:00
proxy twilight council for Rain
3rd rax for Bomber
bunker in the natural for Bomber
Robo for Rain
2 more gas for Bomber

6:00
Dark shrine for Rain
tech lab for Bomber
2 more gas for Rain
ebay for Bomber
stim research for Bomber
another gate for Rain
warp prism for Rain

7:00 47 vs 49
Factory for Bomber
another gas for Bomber
+1 attack started for Bomber
Forge for Rain
observer for Rain
2 more rax for Bomber

8:00 58 vs 64
Starport for Bomber
Rain scouts the hidden base of Bomber with a probe
immortal started for Rain
2 more gates for Rain
DT drop in the main of Bomber
Bomber floating away his hidden base
+1 armor for Rain

9:00 64 vs 69
Bomber blocking his building turret with marines
the DT escapes from the scan
DT in the natural mineral line killing more scvs
15 scvs have died
another DT killing a supply depot
charge research started for Rain
medivacs for Bomber
2 more gates for Rain
combat shields for bomber

10:00 79 vs 70
Bomber lands his 3rd OC at a typical 3rd base location in front of his main
Templar archives for Rain
+1 armor for bomber
concussive shells for Bomber
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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1550
Rain copying my 4v4 build

Needs an expansion from the million minerals banked though, if he follows it right
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 01 2013 10:08 GMT
#1551
On August 01 2013 19:07 drew-chan wrote:
4-0's. 4-0's everywhere

it's already 2-1...
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11110 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1552
Bomber can do it!
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1553
On August 01 2013 19:08 monkybone wrote:
where are all the people saying DTs are useless in TvP now?


Having 3 CCs and no scans is pretty useless yo.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1554
srsly i tried to watch gom, but even stream on gomtv laggs...
yo
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1555
On August 01 2013 19:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:03 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:57 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.


By that logic, this game should have EXACTLY 1 playstyle that's viable per match up and players are only allowed to play that style every game in order to ensure the best possible balance we can ever have.

Please spare me. You can have your cake and eat it too. This game can have more diversity and still be balanced. Brood War managed to do it, WoL in its earlier iterations managed to do it. HoTS can do it also.

Pushing for more diversity in order to stave off the kind of metagame stagnation we saw at the end of WoL should be a priority. It's better for the players playing, and its better for the spectators. It just improves the game.

Obviously it improves the game haha, never said the contrary ;D
I'm just saying that Blizzard just won't "go for the obvious needed mech buff" while they can barely figure out how to balance the game as is. And remember, they tried to push for mech with HotS. It just failed, unfortunately. Maybe for LotV, but you won't see some huge mech re-design before that imo.


They half-assed their supposed "mech focus" in the beta.

I was there, I submitted thread after thread of feedback and suggestions, I was one of dozens of Terrans doing it on just the NA forums alone.

They didn't listen to any of the feedback we had regarding the difficulties facing the Siege Tank. As far as they were concerned unless we were talking about how bad the Helbat was in early beta they weren't interested in hearing it.

100% agreed with that. Plenty of people, myself included thought the Hellbat was bad just by conception, regardless I didn't expect it to be QUITE so silly as when they actually released the beta.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1556
I hate you Star Station
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1557
man that is one scary drop
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
August 01 2013 10:09 GMT
#1558
Drop so strong
GIVE ME COMMAND
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1559
Was that drop worth it though

Ok maybe if he takes the second nexus here as well.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1560
On August 01 2013 19:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:03 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:57 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.


By that logic, this game should have EXACTLY 1 playstyle that's viable per match up and players are only allowed to play that style every game in order to ensure the best possible balance we can ever have.

Please spare me. You can have your cake and eat it too. This game can have more diversity and still be balanced. Brood War managed to do it, WoL in its earlier iterations managed to do it. HoTS can do it also.

Pushing for more diversity in order to stave off the kind of metagame stagnation we saw at the end of WoL should be a priority. It's better for the players playing, and its better for the spectators. It just improves the game.

Obviously it improves the game haha, never said the contrary ;D
I'm just saying that Blizzard just won't "go for the obvious needed mech buff" while they can barely figure out how to balance the game as is. And remember, they tried to push for mech with HotS. It just failed, unfortunately. Maybe for LotV, but you won't see some huge mech re-design before that imo.


They half-assed their supposed "mech focus" in the beta.

I was there, I submitted thread after thread of feedback and suggestions, I was one of dozens of Terrans doing it on just the NA forums alone.

They didn't listen to any of the feedback we had regarding the difficulties facing the Siege Tank. As far as they were concerned unless we were talking about how bad the Helbat was in early beta they weren't interested in hearing it.

It may also be complicated by the fact that mech is not /obviously/ good from a spectator point of view and the focus Blizzard have currently in their balance changes (more fast stuff, more action blahblahblah).
As far as I'm concerned for example, mech is boring to play (almost always), and boring to watch, unless played by like 5 people in the world. I wouldn't want to watch the incoming foreigner T vs foreigner T mech camping borefest, but I might very well watch them mismicro their bio units miserably. At least it ends faster.
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