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In our never-ending quest to destroy free speech, we have banned Twitch chat related memes.

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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1561
What the fuck, Rain just used two mothership cannons on his main nexus and then lost his core ;o?
It appears I have been chosen.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1562
BURN IN HELL
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1563
still dangerous for bomber
Moderatorlickypiddy
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1564
Omg this game is insane
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1565
Wow that could actually brings him back....
LiquipediaWanderer
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:10:57
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1566
rain is still pretty far ahead i guess

ok pretty even again
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1567
SO tense
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1568
Bombeeeeeeeeer gogogogo! Two nexuses and you're back in it :D
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1569
On August 01 2013 19:10 opterown wrote:
rain is still pretty far ahead i guess

you spoke too soon
Moderatorlickypiddy
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1570
This is great for Bomber actually
AdministratorBreak the chains
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1571
Stop attacking Bomber, he's down two Nexi on you.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1572
Come on Bomberrrr!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1573
rain is fucked
TL+ Member
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11110 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1574
On August 01 2013 19:09 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:05 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:03 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:57 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.


By that logic, this game should have EXACTLY 1 playstyle that's viable per match up and players are only allowed to play that style every game in order to ensure the best possible balance we can ever have.

Please spare me. You can have your cake and eat it too. This game can have more diversity and still be balanced. Brood War managed to do it, WoL in its earlier iterations managed to do it. HoTS can do it also.

Pushing for more diversity in order to stave off the kind of metagame stagnation we saw at the end of WoL should be a priority. It's better for the players playing, and its better for the spectators. It just improves the game.

Obviously it improves the game haha, never said the contrary ;D
I'm just saying that Blizzard just won't "go for the obvious needed mech buff" while they can barely figure out how to balance the game as is. And remember, they tried to push for mech with HotS. It just failed, unfortunately. Maybe for LotV, but you won't see some huge mech re-design before that imo.


They half-assed their supposed "mech focus" in the beta.

I was there, I submitted thread after thread of feedback and suggestions, I was one of dozens of Terrans doing it on just the NA forums alone.

They didn't listen to any of the feedback we had regarding the difficulties facing the Siege Tank. As far as they were concerned unless we were talking about how bad the Helbat was in early beta they weren't interested in hearing it.

100% agreed with that. Plenty of people, myself included thought the Hellbat was bad just by conception, regardless I didn't expect it to be QUITE so silly as when they actually released the beta.


Can we add nexus cannon to other silly lazy ideas?

Bah. Stupid bomber. DT openings are still stupid.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1575
wow this is embarassing play from rain after getitng ahead
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1576
YES BABY! HUSTLE HIM OUT
The Bomber boy
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1577
THERE IS STILL HOPE
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 01 2013 10:10 GMT
#1578
the big pylon lol
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12058 Posts
August 01 2013 10:11 GMT
#1579
Seriously I wish Bio wasn't viable, this isn't even interesting for me
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 10:11 GMT
#1580
Holy shit Booooomber do iiiit !
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