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In our never-ending quest to destroy free speech, we have banned Twitch chat related memes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423487
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1501
On August 01 2013 19:01 Arnstein wrote:
How come OGN have more viewers than GOM?!?!


GOM twitch is lagging and delayed.
People watch GOMs non-twitch stream.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1502
blink pressure after expansion!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1503
Oh no, he will just die to blink stalkers now
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1504
FAR too many people in this thread don't know who Chobra is.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1505
On August 01 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[OSL] Ro4 Day 2 WCS Korea Season 2 2013
[image loading] (P)Rain vs. [image loading] (T)Bomber
Game 4 (2-1)
Map: Star Station

0:00
Rain spawns in the bottom left
Bomber spawns in the top right

1:40
gateway first for Rain
rax first for Bomber

2:00
gas for Rain
Cybernetics core for Rain

3:00
zealot for Rain
CC on the low ground for Bomber
probe scout of Rain sees the CC

4:00
Nexus for Rain
scv scout from Bomber sees the nexus
MSC for Rain
2nd gas for Rain
3rd CC hidden in the bottom right for Bomber
another rax for Bomber

5:00
proxy twilight council for Rain
3rd rax for Bomber
bunker in the natural for Bomber
Robo for Rain
2 more gas for Bomber
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1506
When....ahead? Dark Shrine?

Something sounds wrong
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1507
Why does bomber go hidden 3rd on this map? Lol
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1508
DT drops D:
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11082 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:06:09
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1509
Mn.Dt openings. Never ever going to be sold on them.

gonna call it. 2-2 bunch of posts with hope.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1510
On August 01 2013 19:05 Hassybaby wrote:
When....ahead? Dark Shrine?

Something sounds wrong

OMG it feels so good seing your name in here.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1511
Game of tricks, holy shit
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1512
On August 01 2013 19:05 Hassybaby wrote:
When....ahead? Dark Shrine?

Something sounds wrong


Hey, nobody expects it when you're ahead, thus it's smart !
LiquipediaWanderer
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:06:17
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1513
On August 01 2013 19:03 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:57 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.


By that logic, this game should have EXACTLY 1 playstyle that's viable per match up and players are only allowed to play that style every game in order to ensure the best possible balance we can ever have.

Please spare me. You can have your cake and eat it too. This game can have more diversity and still be balanced. Brood War managed to do it, WoL in its earlier iterations managed to do it. HoTS can do it also.

Pushing for more diversity in order to stave off the kind of metagame stagnation we saw at the end of WoL should be a priority. It's better for the players playing, and its better for the spectators. It just improves the game.

Obviously it improves the game haha, never said the contrary ;D
I'm just saying that Blizzard just won't "go for the obvious needed mech buff" while they can barely figure out how to balance the game as is. And remember, they tried to push for mech with HotS. It just failed, unfortunately. Maybe for LotV, but you won't see some huge mech re-design before that imo.


They half-assed their supposed "mech focus" in the beta.

I was there, I submitted thread after thread of feedback and suggestions, I was one of dozens of Terrans doing it on just the NA forums alone.

They didn't listen to any of the feedback we had regarding the difficulties facing the Siege Tank. As far as they were concerned unless we were talking about how bad the Helbat was in early beta they weren't interested in hearing it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1514
rain cheesing =O
Knorre
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria151 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1515
On August 01 2013 19:05 GolemMadness wrote:
FAR too many people in this thread don't know who Chobra is.


I dont know anything about him but i like what he is doing!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 01 2013 10:05 GMT
#1516
On August 01 2013 19:05 Hassybaby wrote:
When....ahead? Dark Shrine?

Something sounds wrong

Dark Shrine anytime.
Moderatorlickypiddy
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:06 GMT
#1517
Engineering bay on the way. So at least he can throw up turrets. I hope he does.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
August 01 2013 10:06 GMT
#1518
always have ghosts with mech bomber!

Cool to see him try it but obviously it once again shows how silly bad mech is. Sure with good EMPs he had won the fight but just so much has to go right, not too mention rain could easily have went stargates as well (don't even think storm is worth it usually against mech).

Storm drops are cute to see but they are always so flashy and so lackluster.. A couple perfect storm drops just 6 kills per drop... That's just less than a zealot drop would have done. Storm drops are only good in PvP needing 3 ticks to kill a scv/drone is just a little too much.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
August 01 2013 10:06 GMT
#1519
On August 01 2013 19:05 GolemMadness wrote:
FAR too many people in this thread don't know who Chobra is.

Yeah, how can people not know who the archinemesis of GIJOEs is.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 01 2013 10:06 GMT
#1520
Rain you have to die now yo.. plz.... 4-2 is fine yo
The Bomber boy
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