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In our never-ending quest to destroy free speech, we have banned Twitch chat related memes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423487
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 01 2013 10:03 GMT
#1481
On August 01 2013 19:01 Elite_ wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:00 monkybone wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:58 Elite_ wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:56 monkybone wrote:
Tanks just need a +damage to shields upgrade

like widow mines

That still wouldn't do anything because of hardened shield... lol

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/immortal#best



Why not? It could be treated like a mini-emp in addition to the shot, hitting the shields first, and afterwards the flat damage.

"Reduces incoming damage to a MAXIMUM OF 10 while the Immortal still has shields"

+damage to shields wouldn't do shit.

Obvious solution is to give tanks a minigun in addition to the crucio cannon.

/s
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33597 Posts
August 01 2013 10:03 GMT
#1482
On August 01 2013 19:02 TheDwf wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:00 Waxangel wrote:
I dunno why Bomber doesn't just play greedy into powerful SCV pull timing midgame with bio :/

It works only if Protoss opens 3+ Colossi.


nah man it's philosophy, not a strict timing --~
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:04:11
August 01 2013 10:03 GMT
#1483
On August 01 2013 18:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On August 01 2013 18:57 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.


By that logic, this game should have EXACTLY 1 playstyle that's viable per match up and players are only allowed to play that style every game in order to ensure the best possible balance we can ever have.

Please spare me. You can have your cake and eat it too. This game can have more diversity and still be balanced. Brood War managed to do it, WoL in its earlier iterations managed to do it. HoTS can do it also.

Pushing for more diversity in order to stave off the kind of metagame stagnation we saw at the end of WoL should be a priority. It's better for the players playing, and its better for the spectators. It just improves the game.

Obviously it improves the game haha, never said the contrary ;D
I'm just saying that Blizzard just won't "go for the obvious needed mech buff" while they can barely figure out how to balance the game as is. And remember, they tried to push for mech with HotS. It just failed, unfortunately. Maybe for LotV, but you won't see some huge mech re-design before that imo.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:03 GMT
#1484
On August 01 2013 19:02 Dodgin wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:01 Arnstein wrote:
How come OGN have more viewers than GOM?!?!


because chobra of course

His voice is so good.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1485
On August 01 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Burn in hell Star Station


don't worry, there's a special place in hell reserved for maps like this.


This map isn't going to Jungle Basin hell, it's nowhere near as bad as some of the bad maps of the past were. Hell it's not even as bad as Dual Sight was.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1486
On August 01 2013 19:03 Wintex wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:02 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:01 Wintex wrote:
If bomber actually loses (won't happen but yea), i know that 90% of people rooting for bomber will go "lololol bomber's law choke i wont ever cheer for u again" etc etc... believe, assholes!

fair weather fans

like 90% of mkp fans... i feel thy pain. I hope he never needs to cry again.

there are quite a lot of mkp fans

every popular player has quite a lot of fair weather fans though
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1487
Ooooh hidden expansion!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1488
On August 01 2013 19:01 Wintex wrote:
If bomber actually loses (won't happen but yea), i know that 90% of people rooting for bomber will go "lololol bomber's law choke i wont ever cheer for u again" etc etc... believe, assholes!


Believing for two years, I'M NOT GONNA STOP NOW !
LiquipediaWanderer
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1489
On August 01 2013 19:02 FeyFey wrote:
star station ... bomber can only lose, since it is a free win map for terran vs toss.


Wut?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1490
So how come I'm watching game 4 on gomtv, but commercials on twitch? :S
We know nothing.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1491
bomber hidden expo. So he throws. 4-1 rain. mind my words.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1492
didn't bomber lose last time he proxied cc against rain
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1493
On August 01 2013 19:03 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:02 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:01 Wintex wrote:
If bomber actually loses (won't happen but yea), i know that 90% of people rooting for bomber will go "lololol bomber's law choke i wont ever cheer for u again" etc etc... believe, assholes!

fair weather fans

like 90% of mkp fans... i feel thy pain. I hope he never needs to cry again.

i hope he does. because its pretty funny

also, wtf bomber, just play normal, dont do cute shit like that
TL+ Member
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1494
On August 01 2013 19:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:03 Wintex wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:02 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:01 Wintex wrote:
If bomber actually loses (won't happen but yea), i know that 90% of people rooting for bomber will go "lololol bomber's law choke i wont ever cheer for u again" etc etc... believe, assholes!

fair weather fans

like 90% of mkp fans... i feel thy pain. I hope he never needs to cry again.

there are quite a lot of mkp fans

every popular player has quite a lot of fair weather fans though

It's the same in every sport. Bandwagoning yay.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:04:58
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1495
rains going stargate i think, will bomber have enough marines? i dont think so
// nvm^^
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33597 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1496
took rain four games to do something funky :d
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:06:01
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1497
On August 01 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Burn in hell Star Station


don't worry, there's a special place in hell reserved for maps like this.

For the best PvZ map in WoL? come on, stargate opening everyday all day
kulas ravine was fine too
bisu
ottosec
Profile Joined April 2013
505 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1498
Rain gonna all in on this map for sure. This map is the devil for protoss.
SKT1-PartinG&Rain, MC
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1499
All the mains have buildings
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 01 2013 10:04 GMT
#1500
ohhh, ninja vs proxy
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
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