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Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
July 19 2013 20:01 GMT
#1321
On July 20 2013 04:59 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:57 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:55 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:53 Albinoswordfish wrote:
The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest.

StarDust tried all the game long to harass, but it isn't just possible when there are spores and spines everywhere and if you try to attack you get crushed by an endless stream of free units.

Stardust had 40 minutes to go for a voydrai switch. Instead he made tempests whithout thinking a sec. Stephano countered them and switched to BL. gg


Because VoidRays with their super long range can never be abducted and are really good at zoning out vipers. Brilliant idea.

You just have to a+move. Stephano had like 2 infestors and 3 corruptors, lots of SH/roaches/hydras (to deal with drops). He didn't even have spores in front of his army. And feedback.
babobbyj
Profile Joined June 2013
636 Posts
July 19 2013 20:01 GMT
#1322
On July 20 2013 05:00 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:57 babobbyj wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:55 GWdeathscythe wrote:
Is JD playing now?


yeah, http://www.twitch.tv/zombiegrub

Is this a guy and a girl casting?


yeah :D
Bad Ass Bobby Johnson, a.k.a. Valiante
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
July 19 2013 20:02 GMT
#1323
I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to HuK v WhiteRa, that's some old school 2010 WoL beta shit.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 19 2013 20:02 GMT
#1324
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 19 2013 20:02 GMT
#1325
"if only Stephano and Jaedong were on the same team"

am i missing some inside joke there
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
biteMe
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany241 Posts
July 19 2013 20:02 GMT
#1326
the things that apollo sees.. pretty nice
I am very mad because i am german. Also i hate web 2.0.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1327
On July 20 2013 05:01 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:59 BlackCompany wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:57 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:55 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:53 Albinoswordfish wrote:
The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest.

StarDust tried all the game long to harass, but it isn't just possible when there are spores and spines everywhere and if you try to attack you get crushed by an endless stream of free units.

Stardust had 40 minutes to go for a voydrai switch. Instead he made tempests whithout thinking a sec. Stephano countered them and switched to BL. gg


Because VoidRays with their super long range can never be abducted and are really good at zoning out vipers. Brilliant idea.

You just have to a+move. Stephano had like 2 infestors and 3 corruptors, lots of SH/roaches/hydras (to deal with drops). He didn't even have spores in front of his army. And feedback.


This is the last time i respond to you, because "just a move" shows me that it is not worth my time trying do discuss this with you.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1328
Jaedong has such a brilliant mind. Except when he plays a P. Then he looks retarded.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1329
On July 20 2013 05:02 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On July 20 2013 05:00 scypio wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
Tefel deserves to lose for going Roach/Hydra

It is just hilarious how many pros try it despite how bad Roach Hydra is.


It gets you into WCS Eu Ro16 premier league and lets you to win vs a DH champion. Guess that's a hard pill to swallow for all those people whining about "how bad roach hydra is".

If I had to clarify I meant vs Terran


He plays it vs terran too.
I play random | I like Hots | INnoVation | sOs | Tefel TOP1!
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1330
Artosis seems to be casting better with Apollo than with Tasteless.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1331
On July 20 2013 04:56 -_- wrote:
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On July 20 2013 04:50 oogieogie wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:49 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Almost all people here are NUTS. WoL BL+infestor was weaker than this?!?!?!? You don't know how it is confronting 30 BL's with the only counter being Blink stalkers.

vortex and archons...



Yeah brutha, I can beat 50 collosus with 5 marines if they way point move command around my marines.

Unless the zerg sucked it was literally impossible to get more than 3 bls in a vortex. oh yeah, and if you're trying to use archons, you're fighting a flying siege unit with sick range with a huge collision box short range archon. Great plan.

BL infestor 200/200 could beat any normal toss army losing 10 or so supply.

the bold is you going full retard. Also any normal toss army would include a mothership vortex gimmick. Toss army gets a good vortex or two > archons in > kill everything or zerg lands fungals/no vortex > Bls launch free units > kill everything.

cmon dont play dumb you know why i said vortex and archons.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 20:04:01
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1332
On July 20 2013 04:59 catabowl wrote:
Love how people are complaining about SH... They were never used for a good 6 months... now someone found a way to use them effectively... and it's all complain, complain, complain... lol

Yeah, it also took Broodlord/Infestor composition a long time to start getting abused as heavily as it was in WoL. We've already seen KeSPA Zergs play this style and it is boring as all hell to watch.

You think Blizzard would have learned about free units and their consequences. Locusts make pre-nerf Infested Terrans look like wimps. Swarm Hosts are invisible Broodlords supported by some of the best anti-detection support they can get. Protoss has very squishy detection that is exploited easily.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#1333
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45089 Posts
July 19 2013 20:04 GMT
#1334
On July 20 2013 05:02 Schelim wrote:
"if only Stephano and Jaedong were on the same team"

am i missing some inside joke there


Yup. Is Austria near Romania?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
July 19 2013 20:04 GMT
#1335
On July 20 2013 04:58 Emzeeshady wrote:
Tefel deserves to lose for going Roach/Hydra

It is just hilarious how many pros try it despite how bad Roach Hydra is.


Yeah i was bad in the beta of Wol, idk why people think its fine now. Hydras got a Speed buff, not a an hp buff. They still dont have the staying power to fight against a good protoss composition.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
July 19 2013 20:04 GMT
#1336
On July 20 2013 05:03 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 05:01 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:59 BlackCompany wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:57 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:55 KingAlphard wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:53 Albinoswordfish wrote:
The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest.

StarDust tried all the game long to harass, but it isn't just possible when there are spores and spines everywhere and if you try to attack you get crushed by an endless stream of free units.

Stardust had 40 minutes to go for a voydrai switch. Instead he made tempests whithout thinking a sec. Stephano countered them and switched to BL. gg


Because VoidRays with their super long range can never be abducted and are really good at zoning out vipers. Brilliant idea.

You just have to a+move. Stephano had like 2 infestors and 3 corruptors, lots of SH/roaches/hydras (to deal with drops). He didn't even have spores in front of his army. And feedback.


This is the last time i respond to you, because "just a move" shows me that it is not worth my time trying do discuss this with you.

It's a shortcut for splitting your voydrais before the fight and attacking. And it's true whithout a good amount of fungals voydrais roll over any Zerg army. Also chill a bit.
biteMe
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany241 Posts
July 19 2013 20:04 GMT
#1337
after seeing game one i dont think that sd can play the macro game vs stephano
so he better do something silly now
I am very mad because i am german. Also i hate web 2.0.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 19 2013 20:05 GMT
#1338
Jaedong dropped a map to TargA??
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
July 19 2013 20:05 GMT
#1339
On July 20 2013 04:57 Hellbat wrote:
Yawn Hosts are much more fun to watch than brood lord / infestor

Strategy wise, this was the most amazing game I remember ever seeing. Stephano is a genius and now my 2nd favorite player.
If you find this boring, you are not a true fan of RTS, just a temporary spectator, a tourist in the community of people who genuinely appreciate RTS.

Hey
We have a specialist in RTS here
...
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 19 2013 20:06 GMT
#1340
On July 20 2013 05:05 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Jaedong dropped a map to TargA??

Yes, and one to DaNa (zerg as well).
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