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On July 20 2013 04:59 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 04:57 Swiipii wrote:On July 20 2013 04:55 KingAlphard wrote:On July 20 2013 04:53 Albinoswordfish wrote: The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest. StarDust tried all the game long to harass, but it isn't just possible when there are spores and spines everywhere and if you try to attack you get crushed by an endless stream of free units. Stardust had 40 minutes to go for a voydrai switch. Instead he made tempests whithout thinking a sec. Stephano countered them and switched to BL. gg Because VoidRays with their super long range can never be abducted and are really good at zoning out vipers. Brilliant idea. You just have to a+move. Stephano had like 2 infestors and 3 corruptors, lots of SH/roaches/hydras (to deal with drops). He didn't even have spores in front of his army. And feedback.
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On July 20 2013 05:00 DidYuhim wrote:Is this a guy and a girl casting?
yeah :D
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I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to HuK v WhiteRa, that's some old school 2010 WoL beta shit.
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"if only Stephano and Jaedong were on the same team"
am i missing some inside joke there
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the things that apollo sees.. pretty nice
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On July 20 2013 05:01 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 04:59 BlackCompany wrote:On July 20 2013 04:57 Swiipii wrote:On July 20 2013 04:55 KingAlphard wrote:On July 20 2013 04:53 Albinoswordfish wrote: The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest. StarDust tried all the game long to harass, but it isn't just possible when there are spores and spines everywhere and if you try to attack you get crushed by an endless stream of free units. Stardust had 40 minutes to go for a voydrai switch. Instead he made tempests whithout thinking a sec. Stephano countered them and switched to BL. gg Because VoidRays with their super long range can never be abducted and are really good at zoning out vipers. Brilliant idea. You just have to a+move. Stephano had like 2 infestors and 3 corruptors, lots of SH/roaches/hydras (to deal with drops). He didn't even have spores in front of his army. And feedback.
This is the last time i respond to you, because "just a move" shows me that it is not worth my time trying do discuss this with you.
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Jaedong has such a brilliant mind. Except when he plays a P. Then he looks retarded.
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On July 20 2013 05:02 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 05:00 scypio wrote:On July 20 2013 04:58 Emzeeshady wrote: Tefel deserves to lose for going Roach/Hydra
It is just hilarious how many pros try it despite how bad Roach Hydra is. It gets you into WCS Eu Ro16 premier league and lets you to win vs a DH champion. Guess that's a hard pill to swallow for all those people whining about "how bad roach hydra is". If I had to clarify I meant vs Terran
He plays it vs terran too.
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Artosis seems to be casting better with Apollo than with Tasteless.
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On July 20 2013 04:56 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 04:50 oogieogie wrote:On July 20 2013 04:49 StarscreamG1 wrote: Almost all people here are NUTS. WoL BL+infestor was weaker than this?!?!?!? You don't know how it is confronting 30 BL's with the only counter being Blink stalkers. vortex and archons... Yeah brutha, I can beat 50 collosus with 5 marines if they way point move command around my marines.
Unless the zerg sucked it was literally impossible to get more than 3 bls in a vortex. oh yeah, and if you're trying to use archons, you're fighting a flying siege unit with sick range with a huge collision box short range archon. Great plan. BL infestor 200/200 could beat any normal toss army losing 10 or so supply. the bold is you going full retard. Also any normal toss army would include a mothership vortex gimmick. Toss army gets a good vortex or two > archons in > kill everything or zerg lands fungals/no vortex > Bls launch free units > kill everything.
cmon dont play dumb you know why i said vortex and archons.
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On July 20 2013 04:59 catabowl wrote: Love how people are complaining about SH... They were never used for a good 6 months... now someone found a way to use them effectively... and it's all complain, complain, complain... lol Yeah, it also took Broodlord/Infestor composition a long time to start getting abused as heavily as it was in WoL. We've already seen KeSPA Zergs play this style and it is boring as all hell to watch.
You think Blizzard would have learned about free units and their consequences. Locusts make pre-nerf Infested Terrans look like wimps. Swarm Hosts are invisible Broodlords supported by some of the best anti-detection support they can get. Protoss has very squishy detection that is exploited easily.
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On July 20 2013 05:02 Schelim wrote: "if only Stephano and Jaedong were on the same team"
am i missing some inside joke there
Yup. Is Austria near Romania?
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On July 20 2013 04:58 Emzeeshady wrote: Tefel deserves to lose for going Roach/Hydra
It is just hilarious how many pros try it despite how bad Roach Hydra is.
Yeah i was bad in the beta of Wol, idk why people think its fine now. Hydras got a Speed buff, not a an hp buff. They still dont have the staying power to fight against a good protoss composition.
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On July 20 2013 05:03 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 05:01 Swiipii wrote:On July 20 2013 04:59 BlackCompany wrote:On July 20 2013 04:57 Swiipii wrote:On July 20 2013 04:55 KingAlphard wrote:On July 20 2013 04:53 Albinoswordfish wrote: The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest. StarDust tried all the game long to harass, but it isn't just possible when there are spores and spines everywhere and if you try to attack you get crushed by an endless stream of free units. Stardust had 40 minutes to go for a voydrai switch. Instead he made tempests whithout thinking a sec. Stephano countered them and switched to BL. gg Because VoidRays with their super long range can never be abducted and are really good at zoning out vipers. Brilliant idea. You just have to a+move. Stephano had like 2 infestors and 3 corruptors, lots of SH/roaches/hydras (to deal with drops). He didn't even have spores in front of his army. And feedback. This is the last time i respond to you, because "just a move" shows me that it is not worth my time trying do discuss this with you. It's a shortcut for splitting your voydrais before the fight and attacking. And it's true whithout a good amount of fungals voydrais roll over any Zerg army. Also chill a bit.
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after seeing game one i dont think that sd can play the macro game vs stephano so he better do something silly now
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Jaedong dropped a map to TargA??
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On July 20 2013 04:57 Hellbat wrote: Yawn Hosts are much more fun to watch than brood lord / infestor
Strategy wise, this was the most amazing game I remember ever seeing. Stephano is a genius and now my 2nd favorite player. If you find this boring, you are not a true fan of RTS, just a temporary spectator, a tourist in the community of people who genuinely appreciate RTS.
Hey We have a specialist in RTS here
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On July 20 2013 05:05 fuzzylogic44 wrote: Jaedong dropped a map to TargA?? Yes, and one to DaNa (zerg as well).
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