If the Korean Youtube stream is unavailable at least you're making the best of it. SNM and Whiplash have their moments, but I think Starcraft commentary is much better in Korean. I just prefer listening to the longer sentences with maximized versions of saying "he's attacking, forcefields...forcefields..." all those ..."yo's and da's" are soothing to the ear.

English commentary just doesn't compare, the language isn't designed well for stream-of-consciousness commentary casting.

DMXD

United States4064 Posts

July 14 2013 04:27 GMT

#267

woot go bisu =D

don't expect him to win but good luck!

prabhbhambra13

United Kingdom424 Posts

July 14 2013 04:27 GMT

#268

On July 14 2013 13:25 Arceus wrote:
wow cant believe SoO won that engagement after getting surround almost in a circle

hyvaa moved his roaches too close and pretty much negated the advantage of his concave seeing as all of soO's roaches could still attack. it was a bad move from hyvaa

DarkPlasmaBall

United States46419 Posts

July 14 2013 04:28 GMT

#269

Innovation generally doesn't proxy though, right?

I could see him underestimating Bisu (especially since Bisu did such a greedy build yesterday) and try to proxy Bisu to try to get a free win... but then hopefully Bisu shuts it down by playing a bit more conservatively.

tuho12345

4482 Posts

July 14 2013 04:28 GMT

#270

Not sure how badly Innovation wants to destroy Bisu. This is gonna be so one-sided game

Moobutt

United States1996 Posts

July 14 2013 04:29 GMT

#271

My prediction for Bogus v Bisu is a bunker contain->expand. Bisu will break it with 2 immortals, and go all-in on a counter attack on Bogus' natural.

Topin

Peru10128 Posts

July 14 2013 04:29 GMT

#272

The only way Bisu could win this is if he puts a Soulkey mask

GolemMadness

Canada11044 Posts

July 14 2013 04:30 GMT

#273

On July 14 2013 13:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Innovation generally doesn't proxy though, right?

I could see him underestimating Bisu (especially since Bisu did such a greedy build yesterday) and try to proxy Bisu to try to get a free win... but then hopefully Bisu shuts it down by playing a bit more conservatively.

He proxies pretty often.

EpiK

Korea (South)5757 Posts

July 14 2013 04:30 GMT

#274

I really hope bisu has a wonky build prepared, because playing standard is just asking for the rape train

Brian333

657 Posts

July 14 2013 04:31 GMT

#275

On July 14 2013 13:02 Black Gun wrote:
stupid question: does anyone know a profound reason why we are seeing so much pvp and protoss in general in proleague, particularly compared to gstl, individual leagues and so on? is it only the mappool or are there also other reasons?

imho the high amount of pvps is really harming interest in proleague, even though pvp currently is (probably) the best mirror matchup. (which is kinda ridiculous by itself...)

Protoss has always been a good Bo1 race for design reasons. They benefit a lot from timing attacks and planned strategies. As for why they're not as successful in individual leagues and gstl, individual leagues (outside of OSL) use Bo3+ formats and the broadcast format means they have to prepare a lot of builds instead of really being able to just prepare 1 tailored build.

The other thing is PL in general has more mirrors because of map balance. So more Protoss playing = more PvPs.

Lastly, when you look at GSTL, it's the same as winner's league in PL and Protoss have a (slightly) lower win percentage in winner's league from my memory. The reason goes back to how Protoss are better in 1 and done formats. In winner's league, there is a lot more improvisation and you don't benefit as much from planning. Also, GSTL has less top-tier Protoss players. The only really good Protoss player they have is First and he wins a lot in GSTL. That's compared to PL which has the likes of Parting, Rain, and sOs,

Fuchsteufelswild

Australia2028 Posts

July 14 2013 04:32 GMT

#276

On July 14 2013 13:23 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:

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On July 14 2013 13:18 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:

On July 14 2013 13:13 FeyFey wrote:

On July 14 2013 13:00 VayneAuthority wrote:

On July 14 2013 12:57 FeyFey wrote:

On July 14 2013 12:52 bo1b wrote:

On July 14 2013 12:51 askmc70 wrote:

On July 14 2013 12:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
oracle is truly a strange fucking unit lol. They are pretty much the new dark templar, unit that can end the game instantly if you aren't prepared for it

its very cool to send all your anti air units to attack 1 phenoix and fall for the bait. jesus Christ do you even think before you post?

What was wrong with his post? He's right in saying oracles catching someone off guard is pretty much gg, just like dts are.

Shouldn't happen though that you are caught that off guard, as they just suck at chasing. But for now it seems super effective in Pro League when some players don't even notice one in their mineral line for a minute.

Probably a flustered STX/dear fan, very hostile for no reason lol.

Nobody said anything about oracles being OP or lame or anything, just that they are incredibly weird and there's really no arguing that. A unit that specializes in killing workers quickly, can only attack for so long based off energy, and has additional spells to use? Yea thats weird

Eh not really and it is specialized into killing light units. And I didn't say anything hostile, just that players shouldn't die to it. Because you have to float directly over the workers so there will be heavy losses.
And yeah sounds weird. Eating organic structures and pulling flying cities weird. :p

He was saying askmc70 was being hostile, not you.

EDIT:

On July 14 2013 13:15 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:
I know this is kind of a weird thing to say... but in case Whiplash reads these threads... whip is looking really good. I almost feel like he noticed people making fun of his hair or something, and felt insecure and did something about it. It's working dude, you have a much better look going on.

Anyways, sorry everyone... carry on.

Stop being materialistic, let them choose their own styles...and recognise that the makeup artists (or whatever) are doing a terrible job for him by making his skin look not PURE WHITE as other people were saying but actually like someone has doubled the gamma light on him. O_O

Uhm, I was trying to give a guy in the spotlight a compliment. I have no idea how that's being materialistic, just trying to bring a guy up as drastic changes in looks often point to some kind of prior insecurity.

Also, it's not his makeup, it's the lighting...

And then you start commenting on how white he looks... right after jumping down my throat for complimenting him... Am I getting trolled here?

Hmm? No trolling, no. I understand, it's just if you are really complimentary about someone's new style and tell them "you have a much better look going on", it doesn't say anything good about what you used to think, so it's a bit like forcing one style upon someone or congratulating them for changing due to peer pressure/"encouragement" after criticism about their looks. They might have been happy with how they looked, you know?
Maybe it's partly lighting, but I don't know that lighting has that much of an effect without also having makeup on. The area around his eyes doesn't look natural to me personally. I also just stated he DOESN'T look "so white" but that that is what others said. He looks BRIGHT from all the high gamma (

) makeup/lighting/whatever.

Azera

3800 Posts

July 14 2013 04:32 GMT

#277

Can't watch this, but I hope Bisu wins!

Albinoswordfish

United States108 Posts

July 14 2013 04:32 GMT

#278

I really hate the Spore Crawler buff. Now you never see Mutas in ZvZ anymore which makes it the game really slow paced with just roaches. I liked the fast pace game Mutas bring. Roach vs Roach is not entertaining to me.

Alabasern

United States4005 Posts

July 14 2013 04:33 GMT

#279

Rock paper scissors is a lot easier to win than widow mine chess or a knifeling fight.