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bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
July 14 2013 03:53 GMT
#181
On July 14 2013 12:49 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:48 bertu wrote:
WOOOW!!!

AMAZING decision making to get an oracle after two phoenix, and then having the control to make the bait work. Well done, Parting!!!

I wonder how much that break contributed to him coming up with that.


He still hadn't scouted blink before the break, so I don't think it was a factor. Certainly he faced stargate x blink in practice before, it was likely a pre-planned tactic to overcome the BO disadvantage. SKT playoff preparation and all.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
July 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#182
Any bets on what cheese Hyvaa goes with? I wouldn't be surprised if SoO whips out the same build as last night. It is the same map after all. Hyvaa might hatch first into two base all-in.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
July 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#183
On July 14 2013 12:51 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:49 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:48 bertu wrote:
WOOOW!!!

AMAZING decision making to get an oracle after two phoenix, and then having the control to make the bait work. Well done, Parting!!!

I wonder how much that break contributed to him coming up with that.


Implying baiting units away from the worker line for your harass unit to do damage is a difficult strat to come up with

I'm frankly surprised Dear fell for it.


I'm not, Dear is known for boneheaded mistakes like that.
STX Fighting!
prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
July 14 2013 03:55 GMT
#184
On July 14 2013 12:54 Moobutt wrote:
Any bets on what cheese Hyvaa goes with? I wouldn't be surprised if SoO whips out the same build as last night. It is the same map after all. Hyvaa might hatch first into two base all-in.

i think he'll 2 base roach bane all in
SECO SECO SECO
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
July 14 2013 03:55 GMT
#185
If Bisu beats Bogus... I don't even know...
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 14 2013 03:57 GMT
#186
On July 14 2013 12:51 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:49 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:48 bertu wrote:
WOOOW!!!

AMAZING decision making to get an oracle after two phoenix, and then having the control to make the bait work. Well done, Parting!!!

I wonder how much that break contributed to him coming up with that.


Implying baiting units away from the worker line for your harass unit to do damage is a difficult strat to come up with

I'm frankly surprised Dear fell for it.

Switching out of the scouted phoenixes to an oracle because you know he won't have a nexus cannon. No way he goes oracle there normally, he'd straight up die to blink stalker with a robo that late. I'm sure he could've come up with it on the spot but the break certainly makes it easier. He also probably knew he was likely up against blink as well because of the mocore scout.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 14 2013 03:57 GMT
#187
On July 14 2013 12:55 haka wrote:
If Bisu beats Bogus... I don't even know...


I want him to proxy gate like he did vs Flash in the ACE match for the last broodwar PL
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 14 2013 03:57 GMT
#188
On July 14 2013 12:52 bo1b wrote:
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On July 14 2013 12:51 askmc70 wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
oracle is truly a strange fucking unit lol. They are pretty much the new dark templar, unit that can end the game instantly if you aren't prepared for it

its very cool to send all your anti air units to attack 1 phenoix and fall for the bait. jesus Christ do you even think before you post?

What was wrong with his post? He's right in saying oracles catching someone off guard is pretty much gg, just like dts are.


Shouldn't happen though that you are caught that off guard, as they just suck at chasing. But for now it seems super effective in Pro League when some players don't even notice one in their mineral line for a minute.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 04:03:00
July 14 2013 03:58 GMT
#189
On July 14 2013 12:51 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:49 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:48 bertu wrote:
WOOOW!!!

AMAZING decision making to get an oracle after two phoenix, and then having the control to make the bait work. Well done, Parting!!!

I wonder how much that break contributed to him coming up with that.


Implying baiting units away from the worker line for your harass unit to do damage is a difficult strat to come up with

I'm frankly surprised Dear fell for it.


The novelty was making the oracle after two phoenix, nobody ever does that. I am sure the timing of the oracle is what caught Dear off guard when he went for the knee jerk reaction to chase the last phoenix. Plus there was the early game that lead to the MSC having less energy, just short of a cannon, which was another thing to throw Dear a bit off.

The more I think about this play, the more impressed I am with Parting. Not to mention if he lost the phoenix too early or bolted with it too fast, it wouldn't work. Great game.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
July 14 2013 03:58 GMT
#190
Pretty sure this is a must win for STX since it seems less than likely that Trap or Classic can win.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
July 14 2013 03:59 GMT
#191
6 pool anyone?
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Gotnerves
Profile Joined August 2012
56 Posts
July 14 2013 04:00 GMT
#192
On July 14 2013 12:51 -Kyo- wrote:
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On July 14 2013 12:49 Gotnerves wrote:
i'm not sure why he canceled his nexus? even behind in workers he would have had his 2nd up much faster than parting and would be making 2 probes to partings 1


Then he has to invest incredibly heavy on economy. Parting's expo may have been slower but his overall economy and standing army would have been much stronger. The end would have been the same except hit much earlier since parting wouldn't have had to worry about saturation.
edit: so basically there are 2 risk choices at that point. Try to play incredibly greedy with mass probes and no army or, the risk which he took, attempt to all in. Didn't work o:



I think he would have had a better chance being greedy with mass probes, it was 14 to 30, and making double probes to 1...parting had slow units and no blink.....Dear with mothership, nexus cannon could have held i think. But just an opinion, maybe same result.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
July 14 2013 04:00 GMT
#193
On July 14 2013 12:57 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:52 bo1b wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:51 askmc70 wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
oracle is truly a strange fucking unit lol. They are pretty much the new dark templar, unit that can end the game instantly if you aren't prepared for it

its very cool to send all your anti air units to attack 1 phenoix and fall for the bait. jesus Christ do you even think before you post?

What was wrong with his post? He's right in saying oracles catching someone off guard is pretty much gg, just like dts are.


Shouldn't happen though that you are caught that off guard, as they just suck at chasing. But for now it seems super effective in Pro League when some players don't even notice one in their mineral line for a minute.


Probably a flustered STX/dear fan, very hostile for no reason lol.

Nobody said anything about oracles being OP or lame or anything, just that they are incredibly weird and there's really no arguing that. A unit that specializes in killing workers quickly, can only attack for so long based off energy, and has additional spells to use? Yea thats weird
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 14 2013 04:00 GMT
#194
On July 14 2013 12:58 Traceback wrote:
Pretty sure this is a must win for STX since it seems less than likely that Trap or Classic can win.

Trap is 3-1 head to head vs Rain and Rain looks shaky in PvP lately
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 14 2013 04:01 GMT
#195
I'm an hour late and I only missed a single game?
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 14 2013 04:01 GMT
#196
SKT FIGHTIIIING
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 14 2013 04:01 GMT
#197
On July 14 2013 13:01 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm an hour late and I only missed a single game?

Yeah, there was a disconnect dispute.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
July 14 2013 04:02 GMT
#198
stupid question: does anyone know a profound reason why we are seeing so much pvp and protoss in general in proleague, particularly compared to gstl, individual leagues and so on? is it only the mappool or are there also other reasons?

imho the high amount of pvps is really harming interest in proleague, even though pvp currently is (probably) the best mirror matchup. (which is kinda ridiculous by itself...)
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 14 2013 04:02 GMT
#199
On July 14 2013 13:00 Gotnerves wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 12:51 -Kyo- wrote:
On July 14 2013 12:49 Gotnerves wrote:
i'm not sure why he canceled his nexus? even behind in workers he would have had his 2nd up much faster than parting and would be making 2 probes to partings 1


Then he has to invest incredibly heavy on economy. Parting's expo may have been slower but his overall economy and standing army would have been much stronger. The end would have been the same except hit much earlier since parting wouldn't have had to worry about saturation.
edit: so basically there are 2 risk choices at that point. Try to play incredibly greedy with mass probes and no army or, the risk which he took, attempt to all in. Didn't work o:



I think he would have had a better chance being greedy with mass probes, it was 14 to 30, and making double probes to 1...parting had slow units and no blink.....Dear with mothership, nexus cannon could have held i think. But just an opinion, maybe same result.

Just no, he'd maybe get it back to a difference of 10 before Parting's nexus finished but his army would be so inferior at that point it wouldn't matter.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 14 2013 04:03 GMT
#200
these tech issues -_-
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