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Rockafella
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom291 Posts
July 15 2013 09:18 GMT
#721
On July 15 2013 18:16 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 NarutO wrote:
Need for Terran

[x] supplyless defence
[ ] anything else

-_-


maybe buff the bunker upgrades to 5 armor so you can use them in the lategame?


Besides I think that this is sarcasm, you either have to leave supply at all of your bases Or send army there which is just not good. You can always be put out of position easily which is never a good thing. It doesn't need to be amazing all-destroying defence, but at least something that buys time...


Upgrade for bunkers that gives them turrets? heuheuheu
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 15 2013 09:19 GMT
#722
(Z)HyuN 2-0 (Z)Solar and will play (Z)RorO
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 15 2013 09:19 GMT
#723
On July 15 2013 18:16 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 NarutO wrote:
Need for Terran

[x] supplyless defence
[ ] anything else

-_-


maybe buff the bunker upgrades to 5 armor so you can use them in the lategame?


Besides I think that this is sarcasm, you either have to leave supply at all of your bases Or send army there which is just not good. You can always be put out of position easily which is never a good thing. It doesn't need to be amazing all-destroying defence, but at least something that buys time...


I think the trade off for "supply cost defense" is the fact that terran can attack a large number of points with very cost effective units in the late game.

Triple prong drops of stim marauders/marines is more potent than any other late game harasss afaik :\

So the idea is to leave some stuff at home for the trade off of not just doom dropping the main and wrecking everything.

The speed which a nexus can go down from a drop is pretty savage
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
July 15 2013 09:19 GMT
#724
HyuN takes game two against Solar with a Hydra/Infestor composition.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33636 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 09:20:47
July 15 2013 09:20 GMT
#725
wait, so why are innovation and mvp (top 3 wcs point players) playing in the qualifier, instead of just applying for the 4 "WCS point" spots in the tournament?

has this been addressed arleady?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#726
On July 15 2013 18:19 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:16 NarutO wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 NarutO wrote:
Need for Terran

[x] supplyless defence
[ ] anything else

-_-


maybe buff the bunker upgrades to 5 armor so you can use them in the lategame?


Besides I think that this is sarcasm, you either have to leave supply at all of your bases Or send army there which is just not good. You can always be put out of position easily which is never a good thing. It doesn't need to be amazing all-destroying defence, but at least something that buys time...


I think the trade off for "supply cost defense" is the fact that terran can attack a large number of points with very cost effective units in the late game.

Triple prong drops of stim marauders/marines is more potent than any other late game harasss afaik :\

So the idea is to leave some stuff at home for the trade off of not just doom dropping the main and wrecking everything.

The speed which a nexus can go down from a drop is pretty savage

??? You can't drop in lategame TvP, because Protoss would just kill your army lacking the supply gone in drops. See Flash vs Puzzle on this very map, for instance.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#727
On July 15 2013 18:16 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 NarutO wrote:
Need for Terran

[x] supplyless defence
[ ] anything else

-_-


maybe buff the bunker upgrades to 5 armor so you can use them in the lategame?


Besides I think that this is sarcasm, you either have to leave supply at all of your bases Or send army there which is just not good. You can always be put out of position easily which is never a good thing. It doesn't need to be amazing all-destroying defence, but at least something that buys time...


Ah I thought you mean something to build a defence after maxing out. Well, a PF with a supply depot wall can buy a lot of time. I think terran does not have something like cannons because bio is so mobile.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#728
On July 15 2013 18:20 Waxangel wrote:
wait, so why are innovation and mvp (top 3 wcs point players) playing in the qualifier, instead of just applying for the 4 "WCS point" spots in the tournament?

has this been addressed arleady?

To get a free trip
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#729
On July 15 2013 18:20 Waxangel wrote:
wait, so why are innovation and mvp (top 3 wcs point players) playing in the qualifier, instead of just applying for the 4 "WCS point" spots in the tournament?

has this been addressed arleady?

because they have paid trip if they qualify
invited players don't
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#730
On July 15 2013 18:18 jimothyjim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:15 Yello wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 jimothyjim wrote:
I feel bad that I haven't heard of Myungsik


me neither and I watch a lot of SPL.

Looks like he played in SPL 4 times, 4 losses to HerO, Bravo, Jangbi and Parting. And some qualifier games.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/4793_MyuNgSiK/games


Maybe he's not so great at PvP.


Or maybe he just has a run right now.
Aiobhill
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany283 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#731
Just who is this guy? Never heard of him either. Anyway great game and best storms I've seen in a while.
Axslav - apm70maphacks - tak3r
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#732
On July 15 2013 18:20 Waxangel wrote:
wait, so why are innovation and mvp (top 3 wcs point players) playing in the qualifier, instead of just applying for the 4 "WCS point" spots in the tournament?

has this been addressed arleady?


the qualifier gives a free trip. Carmac tweeted that they can still come there and play (Kangho as well I think) but they would have to pay for their own trip
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33636 Posts
July 15 2013 09:21 GMT
#733
On July 15 2013 18:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:20 Waxangel wrote:
wait, so why are innovation and mvp (top 3 wcs point players) playing in the qualifier, instead of just applying for the 4 "WCS point" spots in the tournament?

has this been addressed arleady?

To get a free trip


oh so only the qualifier guys get trips, and the WCS point spots are for people who can afford to fly on their own dime?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2013 09:22 GMT
#734
On July 15 2013 18:21 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:20 Waxangel wrote:
wait, so why are innovation and mvp (top 3 wcs point players) playing in the qualifier, instead of just applying for the 4 "WCS point" spots in the tournament?

has this been addressed arleady?

To get a free trip


oh so only the qualifier guys get trips, and the WCS point spots are for people who can afford to fly on their own dime?

correct
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 15 2013 09:22 GMT
#735
i would expect that mvp and losira will go, flying to shanghai isn't that expensive if you're departing from korea. a trip to EU probably costs x3 or x4 as much including a hotel to stay in and all that.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 15 2013 09:22 GMT
#736
On July 15 2013 18:21 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:16 NarutO wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 NarutO wrote:
Need for Terran

[x] supplyless defence
[ ] anything else

-_-


maybe buff the bunker upgrades to 5 armor so you can use them in the lategame?


Besides I think that this is sarcasm, you either have to leave supply at all of your bases Or send army there which is just not good. You can always be put out of position easily which is never a good thing. It doesn't need to be amazing all-destroying defence, but at least something that buys time...


Ah I thought you mean something to build a defence after maxing out. Well, a PF with a supply depot wall can buy a lot of time. I think terran does not have something like cannons because bio is so mobile.

PFs can easily die to committed Zealots/DTs raids, even with repair, and alas, no, I'm not kidding.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 15 2013 09:23 GMT
#737
On July 15 2013 18:19 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 18:16 NarutO wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
On July 15 2013 18:12 NarutO wrote:
Need for Terran

[x] supplyless defence
[ ] anything else

-_-


maybe buff the bunker upgrades to 5 armor so you can use them in the lategame?


Besides I think that this is sarcasm, you either have to leave supply at all of your bases Or send army there which is just not good. You can always be put out of position easily which is never a good thing. It doesn't need to be amazing all-destroying defence, but at least something that buys time...


I think the trade off for "supply cost defense" is the fact that terran can attack a large number of points with very cost effective units in the late game.

Triple prong drops of stim marauders/marines is more potent than any other late game harasss afaik :\

So the idea is to leave some stuff at home for the trade off of not just doom dropping the main and wrecking everything.

The speed which a nexus can go down from a drop is pretty savage


Not in the game like that last one when protoss is sitting in front of your base and can be on top of your production in 5s
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 15 2013 09:24 GMT
#738
is roro vs hyun streamed somewhere?
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 15 2013 09:26 GMT
#739
Sick snipes
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33636 Posts
July 15 2013 09:26 GMT
#740
so basically IEM managed to assemble a world class online tournament for a total prize pool of $800

don't tell this to MLG, RSL, or anyone else please

it hurts as a former TSL organizer T_T
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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