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styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
July 03 2013 07:35 GMT
#921
On July 03 2013 15:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 03 2013 04:16 Whatson wrote:
LOL so much for TLO
What were people calling him after DH? Top 5 foreigners?


Yes, losing 3-2 (in maps) to Mana CLEARLY disproves that notion.


I agree that his loss to Mana doesn't establish anything bad in particular, but I don't think TLO's ever been seriously considered in the top five foreigners. Top ten mayyybe (and that's still a stretch imo).

He's done well in some tournaments, but he simply hasn't won anything notable afaik: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TLO/Results

That being said, I like him and I hope that one day he's considered a top player.


... so just name ten foreigners who are seriously better in terms of pure skills
and pure results in Hots over the last few months.

I can`t.

Naniwa surely seems better and you can argue that players like Snute, Lucifron
and Stephano are still better but right after that there are a bunch of guys who are
nearly on the same level.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46246 Posts
July 03 2013 07:44 GMT
#922
On July 03 2013 16:35 styLesdavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 15:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 03 2013 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 03 2013 04:16 Whatson wrote:
LOL so much for TLO
What were people calling him after DH? Top 5 foreigners?


Yes, losing 3-2 (in maps) to Mana CLEARLY disproves that notion.


I agree that his loss to Mana doesn't establish anything bad in particular, but I don't think TLO's ever been seriously considered in the top five foreigners. Top ten mayyybe (and that's still a stretch imo).

He's done well in some tournaments, but he simply hasn't won anything notable afaik: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TLO/Results

That being said, I like him and I hope that one day he's considered a top player.


... so just name ten foreigners who are seriously better in terms of pure skills
and pure results in Hots over the last few months.

I can`t.

Naniwa surely seems better and you can argue that players like Snute, Lucifron
and Stephano are still better but right after that there are a bunch of guys who are
nearly on the same level.


Here are ten (Mana and some others are after him too, which I personally disagree with): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=412415
He's 7th here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=416594

But those are only the two most recent listings- and they're subjective, so feel free to disagree. In terms of accomplishments throughout SC2 history, some of the ones he's currently beating would be way ahead of him.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
July 03 2013 08:05 GMT
#923
Of course throughout history there are several foreigners who achieved way more than TLO did.
But right now ì can`t really imagine players like Kas, SaSe, Happy or Nerchio are ahead of him.
I will just repeat my words. Naniwa seems really strong right now and Stephano, Lucifron and Snute should
be ahead of him too (even though Stephano and Lucifron lost their last matches against him).
Every other player is debatable.
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kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
July 03 2013 09:08 GMT
#924
On July 03 2013 16:19 Enema wrote:
I used to like TLO back in the old days when he just switched from Terran to Zerg. I believe it was at a MLG, I remember him playing a game on Scrap Station... the good times.
Now adays he just feels so wacky that I cannot even bear myself to watch his games. I am happy he lost... eventhough I don't like Mana either.



His play was rock solid at Dreamhack and HSC. There's nothing wacky about his playstyle.
the game is the game
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 03 2013 09:38 GMT
#925
TLO is a top euro zerg in HotS no doubt about it..

For instance nerchio, vortix, sortoff, slivko etc.. all have worse results then TLO, right now is stephano vs TLO for best euro zerg
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styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
July 03 2013 10:56 GMT
#926
On July 03 2013 18:38 shell wrote:
TLO is a top euro zerg in HotS no doubt about it..

For instance nerchio, vortix, sortoff, slivko etc.. all have worse results then TLO, right now is stephano vs TLO for best euro zerg


I am a total TLO fanboy but you have to notice that Snute is top notch too.
Maybe he even is the best european zerg right now since
his ZvZ is stellar.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
July 03 2013 11:09 GMT
#927
fuck yeah MaNa !!! ))
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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
July 05 2013 09:08 GMT
#928
MaNa
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