• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:33
CEST 07:33
KST 14:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes170BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1663 users

[WCS EU] RO32 Group C Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 47

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 45 46 47 All
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
July 03 2013 07:35 GMT
#921
On July 03 2013 15:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 03 2013 04:16 Whatson wrote:
LOL so much for TLO
What were people calling him after DH? Top 5 foreigners?


Yes, losing 3-2 (in maps) to Mana CLEARLY disproves that notion.


I agree that his loss to Mana doesn't establish anything bad in particular, but I don't think TLO's ever been seriously considered in the top five foreigners. Top ten mayyybe (and that's still a stretch imo).

He's done well in some tournaments, but he simply hasn't won anything notable afaik: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TLO/Results

That being said, I like him and I hope that one day he's considered a top player.


... so just name ten foreigners who are seriously better in terms of pure skills
and pure results in Hots over the last few months.

I can`t.

Naniwa surely seems better and you can argue that players like Snute, Lucifron
and Stephano are still better but right after that there are a bunch of guys who are
nearly on the same level.
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
July 03 2013 07:44 GMT
#922
On July 03 2013 16:35 styLesdavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2013 15:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 03 2013 07:31 TheDougler wrote:
On July 03 2013 04:16 Whatson wrote:
LOL so much for TLO
What were people calling him after DH? Top 5 foreigners?


Yes, losing 3-2 (in maps) to Mana CLEARLY disproves that notion.


I agree that his loss to Mana doesn't establish anything bad in particular, but I don't think TLO's ever been seriously considered in the top five foreigners. Top ten mayyybe (and that's still a stretch imo).

He's done well in some tournaments, but he simply hasn't won anything notable afaik: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TLO/Results

That being said, I like him and I hope that one day he's considered a top player.


... so just name ten foreigners who are seriously better in terms of pure skills
and pure results in Hots over the last few months.

I can`t.

Naniwa surely seems better and you can argue that players like Snute, Lucifron
and Stephano are still better but right after that there are a bunch of guys who are
nearly on the same level.


Here are ten (Mana and some others are after him too, which I personally disagree with): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=412415
He's 7th here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=416594

But those are only the two most recent listings- and they're subjective, so feel free to disagree. In terms of accomplishments throughout SC2 history, some of the ones he's currently beating would be way ahead of him.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
July 03 2013 08:05 GMT
#923
Of course throughout history there are several foreigners who achieved way more than TLO did.
But right now ì can`t really imagine players like Kas, SaSe, Happy or Nerchio are ahead of him.
I will just repeat my words. Naniwa seems really strong right now and Stephano, Lucifron and Snute should
be ahead of him too (even though Stephano and Lucifron lost their last matches against him).
Every other player is debatable.
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
July 03 2013 09:08 GMT
#924
On July 03 2013 16:19 Enema wrote:
I used to like TLO back in the old days when he just switched from Terran to Zerg. I believe it was at a MLG, I remember him playing a game on Scrap Station... the good times.
Now adays he just feels so wacky that I cannot even bear myself to watch his games. I am happy he lost... eventhough I don't like Mana either.



His play was rock solid at Dreamhack and HSC. There's nothing wacky about his playstyle.
the game is the game
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 03 2013 09:38 GMT
#925
TLO is a top euro zerg in HotS no doubt about it..

For instance nerchio, vortix, sortoff, slivko etc.. all have worse results then TLO, right now is stephano vs TLO for best euro zerg
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
styLesdavis
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany833 Posts
July 03 2013 10:56 GMT
#926
On July 03 2013 18:38 shell wrote:
TLO is a top euro zerg in HotS no doubt about it..

For instance nerchio, vortix, sortoff, slivko etc.. all have worse results then TLO, right now is stephano vs TLO for best euro zerg


I am a total TLO fanboy but you have to notice that Snute is top notch too.
Maybe he even is the best european zerg right now since
his ZvZ is stellar.
LiquidTLO - LiquidTaeja - LiquidHero - LiquidSnute - LiquidRet
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 03 2013 11:09 GMT
#927
fuck yeah MaNa !!! ))
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
July 05 2013 09:08 GMT
#928
MaNa
(>'.')>
Prev 1 45 46 47 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft460
StarCraft: Brood War
Movie 971
Icarus 15
League of Legends
JimRising 670
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K584
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox491
Westballz1
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor118
Other Games
summit1g8826
ViBE195
XaKoH 185
NeuroSwarm137
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 40
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 37
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling78
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2h 27m
RSL Revival
4h 27m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
5h 27m
Online Event
10h 27m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.