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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 25 2013 10:23 GMT
#821
On June 25 2013 19:22 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win MLG?


because in 2012 and early 2013 Startale was one of the best SC2 teams. These days it's not anymore. In the face of Kespa Teams it's probably not even mediocre at this point in time.


Startale is still pretty good I think you're being a bit hard on them
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 25 2013 10:23 GMT
#822
On June 25 2013 19:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh btw I wrote an embarrassing blawg praising you people so check it out for an ego boost if you need one


Wait, you can't rate blogs anymore?

You cant rate a blog that was posted in a different section and moved to blogs by a mod
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 25 2013 10:23 GMT
#823
On June 25 2013 19:22 Wintex wrote:
Bomber is fine atm to be honest. Compared to Bomber of summer 2012.

Nothing can compare to Bomber dying to InCa's DT's four games in a row.

Right in the feels.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
June 25 2013 10:23 GMT
#824
On June 25 2013 19:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:20 Elroi wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 edgeOut wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:08 Mattumsfox wrote:
I remember when I first came to Teamliquid and heard that they just ban all the people crying about balance. What ever happened to this? I see so much crying in every thread now it is almost as bad as the sc2 general forums.


As long as the balance whine is to favor a player with huge fan base in TL, it doesn't count. TL is a business, not public service trying to protect justice.

If I wasn't so lazy I would give you a link to a OSL thread when Shine beat Bisu.


there was no injustice there.

but 3 hatch hydra is the shittest build in all of BW.

Maybe no injustice, but lots of bans
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 25 2013 10:23 GMT
#825
On June 25 2013 19:22 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:21 Schelim wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win both MLGs?

because ST's Protoss lineup left the team and Bomber is kinda slumping, I'd say.

I mean, when he was on ZeNEX.

He barely did anything on ZeNEX except being good in teamleagues. It was once he joined startale he started to play really well
리노크 👑
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 25 2013 10:24 GMT
#826
Crazy start, Fanta wants revenge for those OSL finals
The heart's eternal vow
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 25 2013 10:24 GMT
#827
Why didn't he just run with the dropship?!
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 10:24 GMT
#828
On June 25 2013 19:21 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:18 packrat386 wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:17 packrat386 wrote:
Jangbi vs Fantasy
Map is Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct

Jangbi is at the bot left
Fantasy is at the bot right


0:00
DT'S !!!
jklol, nothing yet
...
also lag

pylon in the main for jangbi
supply depot for fantasy

1:00
rax in the main for fantasy
gas before cc
gate and gas for jangbi

2:00
2nd pylon in the main for jangbi
scv is scouting now
2nd gas in the main of jangbi

3:00
reapers, yay
2nd CC on the low ground for fantasy
nexus for jangbi

4:00
reaper in the main now of jangbi
nothing dies
MSC is out and chases it away


5:00
reaper is delaying the tech a bit
factory is on the way for fantasy
forge is finishing up as well as WG
quick robo on the way

6:00
reaper gets in and sees everything
6 rines moving out
hellions being made as well as medivacs for fantasy
obs on the way as well as stalkers

7:00
mine and marines coming into the bas
they force out the nexus cannon
2 more gates in the main of jangbi
marine mine drop on the way
scouted by hallu oracle

8:00
the medivac is killed by the stalkers
hellions run in and kill a lot of probes at the nat
dreaming of a sunny day
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:24 GMT
#829
On June 25 2013 19:23 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:22 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win MLG?


because in 2012 and early 2013 Startale was one of the best SC2 teams. These days it's not anymore. In the face of Kespa Teams it's probably not even mediocre at this point in time.


Startale is still pretty good I think you're being a bit hard on them

He is. They just fill Woongjin's shoes in GSTL. Choke after a lead.
The Bomber boy
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 25 2013 10:25 GMT
#830
Fantasy with a nice play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:25 GMT
#831
A thing i really want to see is colossus in warp prism!
The Bomber boy
jimothyjim
Profile Joined August 2011
Great Britain836 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:26:30
June 25 2013 10:25 GMT
#832
Ouch. I thought he was doing so well then they cut to those hellions...

Edit: Jangbi, I mean. Keep forgetting people can't read my thoughts.
Go Hyvaa, Hyun, Maru, DRG, NaNiwa, MaNa, Genius, Dimaga, Scarlett, Soulkey, First! Elfi is God.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 25 2013 10:25 GMT
#833
We should see hallucinated Oracles more often. At least on close air maps, definitely better than Phoenix
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 25 2013 10:25 GMT
#834
On June 25 2013 19:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:23 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh btw I wrote an embarrassing blawg praising you people so check it out for an ego boost if you need one


Wait, you can't rate blogs anymore?

You cant rate a blog that was posted in a different section and moved to blogs by a mod


Alright. Usually it's mentioned when moved, hence my surprised reaction. 3+ we do kinda rule.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#835
14 probes

man I dont want to have to have to sweat for jangbi making it or not.
The heart's eternal vow
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#836
Fantasy terrorizing jangbi
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#837
wow lets see how good jangbis decision making really is. If he can pull this 3rd base off i will be really really impressed
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#838
On June 25 2013 19:25 Wintex wrote:
A thing i really want to see is colossus in warp prism!


This! We need colossi drops
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:26:40
June 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#839
The whole KeSPA vs. eSF argument and why Life is doing badly is stupid.

Fucking Symbol is the most consistent player in Korean tournaments the past year and he's on a team run by money launderers. Before that, he was on a team with a coach that spied on his players and "hacked" their Skype accounts.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#840
Silly Jangbi
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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