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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
June 25 2013 10:19 GMT
#801
I wish more people would do this trick (and use Raven, in general).
The heart's eternal vow
Hellbat
Profile Joined June 2013
223 Posts
June 25 2013 10:19 GMT
#802
On June 25 2013 19:11 Schelim wrote:
it's so funny how whenever there's a technical issue Tasteless points out it's not a GOM tournament every 2 minutes :O


Especially funny when you consider the most recent disturbance was a GOM observer
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 25 2013 10:19 GMT
#803
On June 25 2013 19:18 YourHarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:13 eviltomahawk wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:11 YourHarry wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:07 ShroudeD wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 trifecta wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 PVJ wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:53 goody153 wrote:
owww ... life lost .. damn .. no shame life that was fantasy possibly the greatest terran BW of all time

NaDa.


BoxeR, NaDa, oov, FlaSh.



Midas.


DDR Terran


I just hope you know what DDR means in this context.

Dance Dance Revolution


ddal ddal ri

Face it, we all ddr all the time, whether you'd like to admit it or not.


i save it for wet fantasies. once a week

I respect your choice, but there are better looking progamers out therw tbh, no homo
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:20:37
June 25 2013 10:20 GMT
#804
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win both MLGs?
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:20:46
June 25 2013 10:20 GMT
#805
On June 25 2013 19:15 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:08 Mattumsfox wrote:
I remember when I first came to Teamliquid and heard that they just ban all the people crying about balance. What ever happened to this? I see so much crying in every thread now it is almost as bad as the sc2 general forums.


As long as the balance whine is to favor a player with huge fan base in TL, it doesn't count. TL is a business, not public service trying to protect justice.

If I wasn't so lazy I would give you a link to a OSL thread when Shine beat Bisu.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:20 GMT
#806
On June 25 2013 19:19 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:12 trifecta wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 liberate71 wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:03 dabom88 wrote:
On June 25 2013 18:59 Wintex wrote:
The widow mine burrow 1 sec thing is really bleh though. Drilling claws, right? I think that one activates them too quickly. 1,5 sec could maybe work. That way you could react to a zerg army without completely giving them the finger.

It's pretty equivalent to the Enduring Locust upgrade. Both are rather fair.


I think the Mine should pop up when 'triggered', then 1 sec later attack, to give people a chance to split-second-micro to try to mitigate damage.

At the moment its just .... SURPRISE MOTHER FUCKER


And I want to see a shredder upgrade that makes it so that two mines can interact to form radiation. Idea recycling is good for the environment.


Science Vessel Eraser bring it back

One thing that really reminded me on the eraser was Bomber's trick of aiming a HSM on medivacs and then boosting those into a group of infestors.

Medibombs pretty good. I hope more people start using ravens. so much more entertaining than OHSHITBURROW boom.
The Bomber boy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 25 2013 10:20 GMT
#807
Oh btw I wrote an embarrassing blawg praising you people so check it out for an ego boost if you need one
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
June 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#808
who cares what tasteless preferes???
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
June 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#809
holy fucking downtimes and Bo1. I am really starting to dislike this season of WCS Korea. I hope it gets better for the later rounds but at this point I strongly prefer Gom's production
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#810
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win both MLGs?

because ST's Protoss lineup left the team and Bomber is kinda slumping, I'd say.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
June 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#811
On June 25 2013 19:20 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:15 edgeOut wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:08 Mattumsfox wrote:
I remember when I first came to Teamliquid and heard that they just ban all the people crying about balance. What ever happened to this? I see so much crying in every thread now it is almost as bad as the sc2 general forums.


As long as the balance whine is to favor a player with huge fan base in TL, it doesn't count. TL is a business, not public service trying to protect justice.

If I wasn't so lazy I would give you a link to a OSL thread when Shine beat Bisu.


there was no injustice there.

but 3 hatch hydra is the shittest build in all of BW.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#812
On June 25 2013 19:18 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:17 packrat386 wrote:
Jangbi vs Fantasy
Map is Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct

Jangbi is at the bot left
Fantasy is at the bot right


0:00
DT'S !!!
jklol, nothing yet
...
also lag

pylon in the main for jangbi
supply depot for fantasy

1:00
rax in the main for fantasy
gas before cc
gate and gas for jangbi

2:00
2nd pylon in the main for jangbi
scv is scouting now
2nd gas in the main of jangbi

3:00
reapers, yay
2nd CC on the low ground for fantasy
nexus for jangbi

4:00
reaper in the main now of jangbi
nothing dies
MSC is out and chases it away
dreaming of a sunny day
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#813
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

His training partners were worse last year. Bomber slumped, curious was gatekeeper choke extravaganza and hack and sound weren't amazing. Protosses were good, but Life excelled in ZvT and ZvZ (pre-soulkey)
The Bomber boy
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 25 2013 10:22 GMT
#814
On June 25 2013 19:21 Foxxan wrote:
who cares what tasteless preferes???


People who care, probably
AdministratorBreak the chains
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 25 2013 10:22 GMT
#815
On June 25 2013 19:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.

Mines don't auto-position themselves to fend off raids and counter-attacks.

Life's style was all about the constant ling agression. Now with the constant mines everywhere you got 2 choices.
1: Get an overseer and start clear all those bloody things; losing your aggrerssion in the meantime and giving your opponent to prepare.
2: Keep on the agression and lose half your army running across the map cause of random mine hits.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 25 2013 10:22 GMT
#816
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win MLG?


because in 2012 and early 2013 Startale was one of the best SC2 teams. These days it's not anymore. In the face of Kespa Teams it's probably not even mediocre at this point in time.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 10:24:08
June 25 2013 10:22 GMT
#817
On June 25 2013 19:21 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win both MLGs?

because ST's Protoss lineup left the team and Bomber is kinda slumping, I'd say.

Bomber is fine atm to be honest. Compared to Bomber of summer 2012.

In addition, StarTale is basically filled with choke due to suffering the same fate as Woongjin (getting an early lead in season and choking to maybe not make the playoffs) They gotta do something in the team. COACH PARK PLZZZ>
The Bomber boy
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 25 2013 10:22 GMT
#818
On June 25 2013 19:21 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 19:20 DidYuhim wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:15 Assirra wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:12 Big J wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:04 Zealously wrote:
On June 25 2013 19:00 HolyArrow wrote:
In light of Life losing to Sjow, that was pretty unsurprising. Wouldn't be unexpected for Life to go out in last place this group. Not that Sjow is bad, but you probably shouldn't be dropping Bo3s to foreigners if you want to be considered a top-level player.


Come on, all players have off days. You don't suddenly stop being a top player because you haven't played well over the last 2-3 weeks.


Well, an off-day is an off-day. A month of underwhelming play is a slump, and to me when someone's slumping it means that they're not currently a top-level player. Life hasn't really impressed me much since he beat Flash at MLG a while ago. He got eliminated in the Ro16 of Code S, dropped 2 Bo3s to foreigners at DH Summer, and also got pretty convincingly beaten by Ryung recently in the GSTL. He hasn't been terrible, but he certainly hasn't been performing up to his reputation.


yeah. Life's gameplay has been pretty bad lately.
I think last season his games were still good. But his ZvT style is really questionable right now and his ZvZ has never been overly strong. I guess his ZvP is still solid, but not topnotch either...

It's because Life's aggressive style gets perfectly countered by the terran's new tools.


I dont think that's the coreproblem. I rather think that his main problem is that he doesn't have good enough training partners and therefore underestimates his opponents.
And he is aweful at cleaning up minefields. Like, each of his games there is some random minefield in which he runs units knowingly or unknowingly, instead of just investing into 2-3overseers all over the map.

If his training partners right now hold him back, how the hell did he beat everyone in 2012 and how the hell did he win both MLGs?

because ST's Protoss lineup left the team and Bomber is kinda slumping, I'd say.

I mean, when he was on ZeNEX.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 25 2013 10:22 GMT
#819
On June 25 2013 19:21 Foxxan wrote:
who cares what tasteless preferes???


You're bulletproof bizzop and swing heil,
You don't really care what gentlemen prefer?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 25 2013 10:23 GMT
#820
On June 25 2013 19:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh btw I wrote an embarrassing blawg praising you people so check it out for an ego boost if you need one


Wait, you can't rate blogs anymore?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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