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On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote: wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me? Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream. That's in 1:55 hours... wtf... Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween??
The finals were scheduled for 4 pm KST from the start, so people can plan to come for just that as it's own contained thing. Also for TV etc.
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On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote: MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL
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So proud of Mvp<3
Next time, buddy! You're still #1 in the fans hearts
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On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:People need to eat.
Players need to rest. Especially Innovation. Otherwise sOs would have the slight advantage.
I rather wait for a few hours, and have a good finals with players well-rested and well-prepared in builds.
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We are going to lose all our NA viewers and gain some EU ones with this break.
Hopefully we see a packed venue at least.
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So, who's idea was this 2 hour break?
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On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:People need to eat. 2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.
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On June 09 2013 14:07 Canucklehead wrote: So sad for mvp. He totally outplayed innovation that series except in one key area...hellbats! I don't know why mvp went widow mine builds game 4 and 5 cause hellbats > mines! At least mvp proved he could go toe to toe with innovation and rightfully should have won if not for freaking hellbats.
yeah he was outplaying innovation TBH .. but its not suprising mvp lost im also not disappointed .. innovation is a good player and has epic micro .. i just didnt think mvp is this good even with bad mechanics due to health issues .. i didnt expect innovation to have a very hard time despite that
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Wow, this two hours wait time kinda kills the adrenaline from that last series. :/
Bogus prolly needs some rest though, and people hafta eat.
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Two hours is just enough time to write a 2,000 word article on sOs vs. Innovation.
Nah
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Sweet I can go out and enjoy my Saturday night then do some drunk WCS spectating. PEACE
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On June 09 2013 14:10 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote: Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ? People need to eat. 2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid. This was the original schedule.
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Mvp came off that series as more impressive player for me because I am biased. lol
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On June 09 2013 14:07 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:
people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit." It's very offensive. Yeh I don't think he directly said that, but it was a horribly written offensive article that was very selective with the evidence and was based on ignorance of the brood war scene MC was thrown into PL games early because he had amazing potential Fruit dealer was getting PL time and was a really good BW player let's just never bring up that article again and hopefully in a few years people will create threads wondering where the term "elephant" came from
I think the article was quite well written. You might disagree with the argument that it lays out (I do too) but the article itself was a good piece of writing. I also have no idea why people find it offensive, basically everything he said about peoples past and motivations were true, its just the predictions that are still in question.
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On June 09 2013 14:10 fuzzylogic44 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote: wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me? Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream. That's in 1:55 hours... wtf... Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween?? The finals were scheduled for 4 pm KST from the start, so people can plan to come for just that as it's own contained thing. Also for TV etc. Well I can see why they did it I guess but ouch that hurts.. I'll unfortunately have to catch the vods tomorrow! Enjoy the finals all!
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Whenever I miss the games, the better player loses 
Sorry MVP and Soulkey
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Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?
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On June 09 2013 14:10 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote: Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ? People need to eat. 2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid. It's on Korean TV. Europe + NA aren't their primary focus and it was already scheduled like so. Stop being a spoilt brat.
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On June 09 2013 14:04 snakeeyez wrote: Blizz said if a matchup is the same thing everytime they would change it. I think hellbats fit into that, but hellbats later on are important to help with siege tanks for mech so weakening them changes how that works too. Maybe just remove the healing. I don't understand the argument that you need hellbats to be super strong for mech. If mech is unviable unless you have an OP unit (and for their cost, hellbats are most definitely OP), then there are more fundamental problems with mech. If mech is truly worth making viable then those fundamentals need to be fixed.
Personally I don't see the need to force mech to be viable. I know artosis loves it, but it's not like terran lacks other perfectly good strategies. Terran in SC2/ hots is different from BW, and I don't see the big need to try and force hots terran to be more like BW by emphasising mech.
But if you really want to make mech viable, you need to fix the fundamentals, and I think that means the siege tank. The siege tank isn't that strong in SC2. It was rarely used against P in WOL, and now with the widow mine it is rarely used against zerg in HOTS. Siege tanks are expensive, immobile and pretty fragile, and I'm not sure their damage output really makes up for that. If you buffed siege tank damage - say to 50 damage to all units, similar to the ultralisk buff, then mech would be stronger.
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