• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:14
CEST 09:14
KST 16:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!35Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)106
StarCraft 2
General
3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Terran or Protoss Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Looking for NASL Season 1 VODs
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4908 users

WCS Season 1 Finals Day 3 - Page 236

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 234 235 236 237 238 381 Next
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4701
On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote:
wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me?


Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream.
That's in 1:55 hours... wtf...

Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween??


The finals were scheduled for 4 pm KST from the start, so people can plan to come for just that as it's own contained thing. Also for TV etc.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4702
On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever

now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4703
So proud of Mvp<3

Next time, buddy! You're still #1 in the fans hearts
KT FlaSh FOREVER
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4704
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.


Players need to rest. Especially Innovation. Otherwise sOs would have the slight advantage.

I rather wait for a few hours, and have a good finals with players well-rested and well-prepared in builds.
gg no re thx
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4705
We are going to lose all our NA viewers and gain some EU ones with this break.

Hopefully we see a packed venue at least.
ardi
Profile Joined February 2012
United States187 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4706
2 HOUR BREAK? WTF!
Doors block the thrust of life!!!!
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4707
So, who's idea was this 2 hour break?
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4708
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.

2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4709
On June 09 2013 14:07 Canucklehead wrote:
So sad for mvp. He totally outplayed innovation that series except in one key area...hellbats! I don't know why mvp went widow mine builds game 4 and 5 cause hellbats > mines! At least mvp proved he could go toe to toe with innovation and rightfully should have won if not for freaking hellbats.



yeah he was outplaying innovation TBH .. but its not suprising mvp lost im also not disappointed .. innovation is a good player and has epic micro .. i just didnt think mvp is this good even with bad mechanics due to health issues .. i didnt expect innovation to have a very hard time despite that
this is a quote
Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4710
Wow, this two hours wait time kinda kills the adrenaline from that last series. :/

Bogus prolly needs some rest though, and people hafta eat.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4711
Two hours is just enough time to write a 2,000 word article on sOs vs. Innovation.

Nah
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
J.E.G.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States389 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4712
Sweet I can go out and enjoy my Saturday night then do some drunk WCS spectating. PEACE
Do or do not; there is no try.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4713
On June 09 2013 14:10 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.

2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.

This was the original schedule.
Refer to my post.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:11:46
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4714
Mvp came off that series as more impressive player for me because I am biased. lol
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4715
On June 09 2013 14:07 KelsierSC wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:



people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit."
It's very offensive.


Yeh I don't think he directly said that, but it was a horribly written offensive article that was very selective with the evidence and was based on ignorance of the brood war scene

MC was thrown into PL games early because he had amazing potential
Fruit dealer was getting PL time and was a really good BW player

let's just never bring up that article again and hopefully in a few years people will create threads wondering where the term "elephant" came from


I think the article was quite well written. You might disagree with the argument that it lays out (I do too) but the article itself was a good piece of writing. I also have no idea why people find it offensive, basically everything he said about peoples past and motivations were true, its just the predictions that are still in question.
dreaming of a sunny day
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4716
On June 09 2013 14:10 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote:
wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me?


Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream.
That's in 1:55 hours... wtf...

Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween??


The finals were scheduled for 4 pm KST from the start, so people can plan to come for just that as it's own contained thing. Also for TV etc.

Well I can see why they did it I guess but ouch that hurts.. I'll unfortunately have to catch the vods tomorrow! Enjoy the finals all!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4717
Whenever I miss the games, the better player loses

Sorry MVP and Soulkey
MMA: The true King of Wings
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:12:30
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4718
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4719
On June 09 2013 14:10 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.

2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.

It's on Korean TV. Europe + NA aren't their primary focus and it was already scheduled like so. Stop being a spoilt brat.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4720
On June 09 2013 14:04 snakeeyez wrote:
Blizz said if a matchup is the same thing everytime they would change it. I think hellbats fit into that, but hellbats later on are important to help with siege tanks for mech so weakening them changes how that works too. Maybe just remove the healing.

I don't understand the argument that you need hellbats to be super strong for mech. If mech is unviable unless you have an OP unit (and for their cost, hellbats are most definitely OP), then there are more fundamental problems with mech. If mech is truly worth making viable then those fundamentals need to be fixed.

Personally I don't see the need to force mech to be viable. I know artosis loves it, but it's not like terran lacks other perfectly good strategies. Terran in SC2/ hots is different from BW, and I don't see the big need to try and force hots terran to be more like BW by emphasising mech.

But if you really want to make mech viable, you need to fix the fundamentals, and I think that means the siege tank. The siege tank isn't that strong in SC2. It was rarely used against P in WOL, and now with the widow mine it is rarely used against zerg in HOTS. Siege tanks are expensive, immobile and pretty fragile, and I'm not sure their damage output really makes up for that. If you buffed siege tank damage - say to 50 damage to all units, similar to the ultralisk buff, then mech would be stronger.
Prev 1 234 235 236 237 238 381 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft771
Nina 111
Trikslyr23
StarCraft: Brood War
Mong 506
Leta 238
Tasteless 204
Mind 99
ToSsGirL 51
Nal_rA 29
sSak 28
NaDa 28
yabsab 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 1
League of Legends
JimRising 640
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 900
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King165
Other Games
summit1g5887
ceh9449
C9.Mang0274
NeuroSwarm108
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick555
BasetradeTV63
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH289
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki18
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2529
League of Legends
• Stunt792
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2h 46m
INu's Battles
3h 46m
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
16h 46m
The PondCast
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 3h
Patches Events
1d 8h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.