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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4701
On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote:
wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me?


Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream.
That's in 1:55 hours... wtf...

Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween??


The finals were scheduled for 4 pm KST from the start, so people can plan to come for just that as it's own contained thing. Also for TV etc.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4702
On June 09 2013 14:06 mordk wrote:
MVP we still love you, and I hope Innovation loses again, just so he can be confirmed as the biggest loser ever

now cmon, that's really mean lol. Guy just lost a final a while back, losing this would crush him >< Hoping for close games with Innovation winning. This could be what he needs to finally feel what it's like to win a major title. Sos can have the next GSL
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4703
So proud of Mvp<3

Next time, buddy! You're still #1 in the fans hearts
KT FlaSh FOREVER
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4704
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.


Players need to rest. Especially Innovation. Otherwise sOs would have the slight advantage.

I rather wait for a few hours, and have a good finals with players well-rested and well-prepared in builds.
gg no re thx
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4705
We are going to lose all our NA viewers and gain some EU ones with this break.

Hopefully we see a packed venue at least.
ardi
Profile Joined February 2012
United States187 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4706
2 HOUR BREAK? WTF!
Doors block the thrust of life!!!!
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4707
So, who's idea was this 2 hour break?
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 09 2013 05:10 GMT
#4708
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.

2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44277 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4709
On June 09 2013 14:07 Canucklehead wrote:
So sad for mvp. He totally outplayed innovation that series except in one key area...hellbats! I don't know why mvp went widow mine builds game 4 and 5 cause hellbats > mines! At least mvp proved he could go toe to toe with innovation and rightfully should have won if not for freaking hellbats.



yeah he was outplaying innovation TBH .. but its not suprising mvp lost im also not disappointed .. innovation is a good player and has epic micro .. i just didnt think mvp is this good even with bad mechanics due to health issues .. i didnt expect innovation to have a very hard time despite that
this is a quote
Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4710
Wow, this two hours wait time kinda kills the adrenaline from that last series. :/

Bogus prolly needs some rest though, and people hafta eat.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4711
Two hours is just enough time to write a 2,000 word article on sOs vs. Innovation.

Nah
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
J.E.G.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States389 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4712
Sweet I can go out and enjoy my Saturday night then do some drunk WCS spectating. PEACE
Do or do not; there is no try.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4713
On June 09 2013 14:10 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.

2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.

This was the original schedule.
Refer to my post.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:11:46
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4714
Mvp came off that series as more impressive player for me because I am biased. lol
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4715
On June 09 2013 14:07 KelsierSC wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:02 1Dhalism wrote:



people seemed to forget that the twat who introduced the elephant theory didnt write the obvious "given enough time really talented BW players will be really good at SC2." He wrote "SC2 players are shit."
It's very offensive.


Yeh I don't think he directly said that, but it was a horribly written offensive article that was very selective with the evidence and was based on ignorance of the brood war scene

MC was thrown into PL games early because he had amazing potential
Fruit dealer was getting PL time and was a really good BW player

let's just never bring up that article again and hopefully in a few years people will create threads wondering where the term "elephant" came from


I think the article was quite well written. You might disagree with the argument that it lays out (I do too) but the article itself was a good piece of writing. I also have no idea why people find it offensive, basically everything he said about peoples past and motivations were true, its just the predictions that are still in question.
dreaming of a sunny day
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4716
On June 09 2013 14:10 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:06 quirinus wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:05 ShowTheLights wrote:
wait the final is in TWO hours?! can somebody confirm this for me?


Yea, says 16:00 KST on GOM stream.
That's in 1:55 hours... wtf...

Seriously??? That's fuckng lame I realllyy wanted to watch these finals live but guess I won't be able too T.T Why such a long break inbetween??


The finals were scheduled for 4 pm KST from the start, so people can plan to come for just that as it's own contained thing. Also for TV etc.

Well I can see why they did it I guess but ouch that hurts.. I'll unfortunately have to catch the vods tomorrow! Enjoy the finals all!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4717
Whenever I miss the games, the better player loses

Sorry MVP and Soulkey
MMA: The true King of Wings
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 05:12:30
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4718
Seriously, what is up with the sudden influx of Innovation hate in here?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4719
On June 09 2013 14:10 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 14:09 gobbledydook wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:08 Boucot wrote:
Ha, wtf, 2 hours ? Seriously ?


People need to eat.

2 hours... People from EU and America would like to watch the games at a decent hour. Screwing one region is ok but two is stupid.

It's on Korean TV. Europe + NA aren't their primary focus and it was already scheduled like so. Stop being a spoilt brat.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
June 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#4720
On June 09 2013 14:04 snakeeyez wrote:
Blizz said if a matchup is the same thing everytime they would change it. I think hellbats fit into that, but hellbats later on are important to help with siege tanks for mech so weakening them changes how that works too. Maybe just remove the healing.

I don't understand the argument that you need hellbats to be super strong for mech. If mech is unviable unless you have an OP unit (and for their cost, hellbats are most definitely OP), then there are more fundamental problems with mech. If mech is truly worth making viable then those fundamentals need to be fixed.

Personally I don't see the need to force mech to be viable. I know artosis loves it, but it's not like terran lacks other perfectly good strategies. Terran in SC2/ hots is different from BW, and I don't see the big need to try and force hots terran to be more like BW by emphasising mech.

But if you really want to make mech viable, you need to fix the fundamentals, and I think that means the siege tank. The siege tank isn't that strong in SC2. It was rarely used against P in WOL, and now with the widow mine it is rarely used against zerg in HOTS. Siege tanks are expensive, immobile and pretty fragile, and I'm not sure their damage output really makes up for that. If you buffed siege tank damage - say to 50 damage to all units, similar to the ultralisk buff, then mech would be stronger.
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